New Rise of Azshara Cinematic: “Safe Haven”

There’s no “evidence” for it other than the VA’s tone and delivery.

As a note: I don’t think her being a Horde equivalent to Arthas is a bad thing as it fit with her shadyness, but it’s when she became warchief that it became an issue.

I expected she wouldn’t get into a “hot war” until she was forced into it. Because I expected her not to want to put herself or her Forsaken on the line while she didn’t have a solution for avoiding the afterlife she fears or finding a way for them to reproduce.

I expected that the Alliance would be the ones to throw the first punch. And then I thought Sylvanas would respond with clever, if cold-blooded, strategy. Perhaps she wouldn’t care for the entire Horde in a warm and fuzzy way, but she’d value everyone’s lives in the sense that they were her resources for winning the war and she didn’t want to waste them.

Think what you like about me for believing that, but it’s the honest truth. And I still think it’s a plausible way the story could have gone.

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I am out of likes for today. I normally don’t agree with you, but you’re right on the money on this one.

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Can I complain for a second that the rogues were ACTUALLY invisible?

I always thought turning invisible was just the way the mechanics of WoW represented rogues physically sneaking around. You know, hiding in the shadows, jumping from one hiding place to the next, avoid watchful eyes, etc.

But this cutscene shows that, no, rogues can actually magically turn invisible like a Predator.

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I do think it was plausible and I was hopeful the Alliance would start the war (sadly Blizz can’t do that as reinforced by statements on Tyrande) but in the end, having a leader who is willing to use the Blight and raise undead (which is a big taboo for the Orcs) was not compatible with the rest of the Horde.

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That’s how it’s always been if yiou’re on the other side of the PVP color spectrum.

Saurfang has Wonder Woman level bracers. That’s … something.

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Btw when I refer to her as the Lich Queen I mean in terms of she uses the same powers as Arthas with a similar ideology: raise undead and then serve me or die.

Isn’t that mostly how Arthas was defined as evil?

He’s been raiding since the sack of Stormwind. Dude has caches of purples all over the place.

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Blizzard unveils a giant picture of Teldrassil on fire with Sylvanas standing infront of it alone

Bro, it’s definitely gonna be the Alliance who is evil this expac bro. They prolly burned the tree themselves.

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Side note: what a curious place to keep your axe.

Like, I get that, symbolically, hiding the axe represented Thrall’s attempt to hide from his violent past and move on to a pastoral life with his family. And so revealing it showed that he is returning to the fight. Obvious metaphor is obvious.

But it still seemed like a weird place to put it.

Maybe I just watch too much Cinemasins.

Imo the entire perspective changes if the Alliance attacked Lordaeron first. Burning the tree still would be incredibly evil but retaliating vs being aggressive I think puts a huge spin on it

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Well, irl everyone locks away any dangerous tool, whether it be a gun or just a really sharp cutting knife, to prevent any horrible accidents.

I don’t see how hiding a war axe is any different

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just saying none of this was surprising to me and im ctfu at every one who is like utterly shocked that blizzard would write the story this way

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Dude, I know you’re poking fun at Fosaken/Sylvanas fans. But you know they had this line of thinking not because they love Sylvanas but because it couldn’t be that blatantly obvious, so outright evil and stupid and pointless. Blizzard even told us it wouldn’t be… and then it was just that.

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yeah but this is blizzard were talking about lmao i expect nothing less from them and haven’t for like, close to a decade now

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Sometimes I think Blizzard writes for the people who thought everyone was truly dead after Thanos snapped them at end of Infinity War.

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It is weird. But they probably didnt wanna render a whole separate room/area/another scene to show the axe. Made most technical sense to have it there.

You are right. I realize that now; the story is stupidly black and white.

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