I would rather have a system where every boss awards points with each kill (in addition to the normal loot tables) and just buy stuff off a vendor with the points. Ultimate bad luck protection right there.
sounds like tbc onwards badges except i assume it would include the entire loot table?
Loot is generally the be all end all for how long a phase lasts, A point system like that would get people geared up faster then anything else ever thought up. Which would actually kill the phase.
Some bad luck, and some grinding, and competition is the spice that keeps people on the treadmill as long as the game is fun to play.
But if people are just grinding points and they buy everything they want, it will just end up being. āAlright, I have all my stuff.ā -Log off and never come back.
Thatās the main problem with badges and using badges to get gear. Itās just too easy to fully gear your character out.
Yeah pretty much except we take all the loot tables from raids and put them on the vendor. Imo if someone runs the instance for a month they should be allowed to cherry pick a drop from the place.
GDKP is way faster and easier than a badge vendor though. A whale can deck an entire character out in one lockout if the dice come up right.
Correct, a whale can in a GDKP situation. But that whale would end up taking all the loot for themselves leaving the rest of the raid with nothing. At that point that one whale would be done while the rest of the raid would be forced to play longer to get gear.
Competition breeds action, which breeds interest and longevity. Loot scarcity also helps push people to all forms of gear progression and not just raiding.
Again, if people are just buying loot from a vendor with points being given after a kill and everyone can pick and choose. Youāre just 1 step away from selling it for gold then. Heck at that point why do just gold, blizzard could rmt it. They had such a system for Diablo 3 when it launched called the real money auction house.
if badges are too quick, you could just increase the prices, the sunwell badge items for example were like BT equals but they cost insane numbers of badges, like the double fist weapon cost 150 badges which is like 40-50 tbc heroics, certainly no short task
Iām sure the badge system could work, though the idea of the thread was to create a system similar to GDKP without RMT.
I personally dislike the badge system because I think being able to just choose which loot piece you want after you collect enough badges kind of takes away from the whole. āOh wow, that actually dropped?! Thatās awesome!ā And kind of turns it into. āOh, I have to get X tokens for X item? Man, thatās kind of a drag and a chore.ā Specially if you bought something and then go. āWell, I guess I donāt get loot till X because I need to get tokens again.ā
With a badge loot system, people could go several lock outs without getting stuff.
The other main problem is that the devs would need to make every single item OP. For example. Say the devs make 4 single handed swords. But 1 of them is better then the other 3. Then no one would ever buy the other 3. Thatās item assets never used and wasted dev time.
The main reason for drops is that there is a handful of SSS loot, the rest is SS-S-A+ loot, 1-2 people end up getting the SSS loot while the rest fight over the rest, this creates drive for other players to keep raiding.
To buy the loot from a badge vendor, everyone would ignore anything below SSS. Which means everything the devs made would be wasted.
Rightttttttttt, you wanted to combat the GDKP thread spam by making ANOTHER GDKP thread. How stupid do you think I am?
This isnāt a GDKP thread though. This is a TDKP thread, Iāve literally explained each and every point of it throughout the thread, along with responding to people on how to create a system to replace GDKP.
I donāt hate, nor love GDKP. Itās a system with flaws and benefits like any other system.
I just believe in being constructive then destructive in trying to create a good loot system.
I did not, however go into a thread just to attack someone like yourself. Please try and stay respectful.
Iām enjoying you guys trying to coopt my catch phrases.
Apparently both the pro gdkp movement and anti is 3 people total. Only one side same āfriendsā and uses bots.
But both sides.
Selling Token farm runs for gold would just get banned under gdkp anyway
Players already pay people to not bid on stuff its meta buts its way more low key than selling token farm runs
This eliminates the two ways that RMT enters the system.
Yes people will still buy gold and pay ppl not to bid/roll but that happens in this version too its just on the down low
I mean, Iām not in the pro or anti camp. Personally Iāve always raided with MS<OS+1 or SR or Loot counsel.
Iāve just gotten interested in seeing if I could personally make a better loot system that everyone would like. Though while I expect that the devs wonāt give it a passing glance itās still an interesting exercise in spit balling game mechanics for loot.
Not everyone here is for the silly GDKP fight, Every loot system has its ups and downs, even the GDKP.
Though I have to say, I have no idea who you are. So dunno about catch phrases.
When you post brianlet takes like letās create a system with no rmt, your posts arenāt worth reading. Stop. Your opinons are lowering the IQ of the room.
Gdkp is banned in sod and rmt is insane still. Just stop posting.
So you came to the thread, just to try and shut down the conversation and hurl personal attacks against other people on the forums?
Just come in here to directly attack someone else just creating an open forum thread about a topic? I mean okay. If you want to attack someone directly like that I canāt stop you sadly.
yeah get a brain morans
lol
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This idea is so obvious why havenāt they just done this already. I would love this type of loot system.
Has all the benefits of gdkp with much less of the rmt.
I wonder why all the pro gdkpers that want their raid system back arent backing this?
Its because they feed off rmt.
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just dont pug and run a guild with a DKP and your good to go!!! omg problem fixed
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I proposed this in my post below back in January. Unfortunately, blizzard never asked the GDKP community for any feedback and have ignored and even deleted threads on the topic.
Side note: very ironic to see the anti gdkp crowd supporting this thread. Confirms that they never actually read my thread and just wanted to go after me for supporting gdkp 
Because all your posts fall under GDKP support and not for a new raid system to be thought of. Maybe push this instead of GDKPs and you would have more support.