The complainers will never admit it but it really comes down to this: some people have a very liberal view of what constitutes an advantage or pay to win that really boils down to “if I don’t like it, or I want it but don’t have the disposable income to buy it right now then it’s pay to win, and you won’t convince me otherwise.” If you consider anything that saves you time to be pay to win then you can define anything as pay to win essentially. Under this definition every other mount in the shop is pay to win because it saves you the gold of buying one in game (no matter how small that amount is considered today) and the act of flying around the world saves you time.
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Bzzzt wrong.
Depending on the market it may take more or less time for a token to sell. It can take up to several days for a token to sell.
WoW Tokens are sold in the order they are listed on the Auction House. You will always receive the amount of gold you were quoted when putting the token up for sale.
If a token you posted does not sell after two weeks, CONTACT CUSTOMER SUPPORT to check the status.
YOU WILL ALWAYS RECIEVE THE GOLD. ALWAYS. NO QUESTIONS. NO EXCEPTIONS.
Source- official contractual binding rules of tokens by blizzard for wow.
The tokens are gold for money. Even if that gold is generated by blizz themselves, you’ll get the gold you were quoted.
That means if it doesnt sell, customer support will make it sell.
I am weary of being attacked because I believe this is a bad move for them to make and because I believe it is overpriced. It’s my opinion and I hold by it. The fact that some seem to think $120 is ok to charge for a mount is also ok, that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it.
If anyone wants to buy it, fine, they can buy it. I’m not saying they shouldn’t. I’m just saying that I don’t think its a good precedent for the game. However, I’m tired of being thumped for holding that opinion, so I think I’ll just toddle off and play the game and not take any further part in these posts.
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Again, feel free to cite where they’ve admitted to doing so.
Or use the CS forum to ask, like I said.
You won’t, and you’ll create excuses. You know I’m correct, you’re just opting to die on this hill.
An oddly rehashed hill.
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Just did. Blizz GUARANTEES THE GOLD even, and ESPECIALLY WHEN it sells for less, or in the few cases it never sells because theres too many tokens and no demand.
For aomeone who posts so much you sure cannot comprehend legally binding agreements and consumer protection laws.
You haven’t cited anything.
Also it’s easy to ensure the gold, this doesn’t have anything to do with them buying tokens for you.
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Yes. I did. Check it out. Read it you feminine canine with the behavior of a feline.
Help article 13888
WoW Tokens are sold in the order they are listed on the Auction House. You will always receive the amount of gold you were quoted when putting the token up for sale.
That is always
No exceptions.
Zero situations in which you will not.
Because blizzard guarantees the gold. From them. No matter what the other person pays.
Those who bought tokens listed them at 350k ot whatever…and people ingame just got to keep paying less and less as more tokens hit.
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To quote your source;
WoW Tokens are sold in the order they are listed on the Auction House. You will always receive the amount of gold you were quoted when putting the token up for sale.
If a token you posted does not sell after two weeks, contact [Customer Support] to check the status.
They do not buy or sell tokens for you. They comp the cost in gold (it costs nothing for Blizzard to do this, all it does is artificially and very negligibly affect the market) when the gold value shifts after your token is put on the AH for sale.
Any other attempts?
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What is 0 plus 350k? 350k. Youre GUARANTEED IT SELLS FOR THE FULL PRICE. EVEN IF NOONE BUYS IT. Also, when someone oays 100k or 200k but the seller gets more, thats blizzard buying it and giving it to the other person at a discounted gold rate.
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That’s great! 
I’m glad you were more calm & respectable in the explanation, so thankyou 
Honestly though, upon the basis of your thread:
If players simply explained politely that you can purchase the WoW Tokens for gold on the AH then later convert it to Bnet credits → Then use those credits to buy the mount as opposed to your real money — I’m sure much more would be further understanding & receptive to that.
(Plus Yay the Bruto is back!)
However the slob-minded neckbeards on the forums get egotystical & become super toxic about it and start calling people donkeys and insinuating they’re alcoholics for simply not knowing, being unaware of – or yet to have an understanding to how something can be achieved.
I had a friend who I introduced into WoW that actually quit after a relatively short time of playing, despite having originally enjoying it a lot when they first started — They argued the reason was the toxicity to new players & the language that was used when simple questions were asked or pondered, and honestly with the paragraph above in correlation to some replies on this thread – I get it. 
Here you go with random math again for no reason.
Oh, I see what you’re trying to do, this time.
Selling for 0 is not the same as not selling. This is even true in bare mathematics, not just economics.
No, they aren’t compensating you for a token that hasn’t sold - they’re ensuring you get the gold you saw when you put down the 20 big ones.
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This are two ways to buy this, and they each have a different viewpoint:
- You can buy with gold, converting to tokens, then to BNet balance. If you have the gold. I don’t see this as a problem, and looking at it through this lens makes it relatively more palatable.
- You can buy it with cash.
The cash version is the problematic one, at least I think (I’m not mad about the situation, but I do think it’s ridiculous for this method alone). People who don’t have the gold to convert to tokens and don’t have the time or the gumption to farm it may end up just forking over the cash. This is 1.5x the cost of a standard “AAA” game. A mount. Yea, it’s useful, but it’s … a mount.
People who pay with cash are telling Blizzard this one mount is worth more than a full game. That we don’t need content, or innovation, or hours of entertainment. We need… a mount. So the fears are, perhaps, that we will get a lot more of this (since it’s waaaay more profitable) and a lot less of actual game to play.
At least, that’s my guess, anyways.
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Pretty correct imo. Especially since the bear mount just came out recently, I’m sure some people see it as a trend.
Youre refusing to admit defeat when blizzard themselves says youre wrong. Just shut it and butt out. Blizzard generates gold for tokens. Blizzard buys the tokens. Thats their gold. Generated to buy the token because noone would pay the amount they were quoting. Because its a made up number.
Blizzard is literally manipulating the entire token system.
Noone paid 350k. Noone paid 300k. Very few were tricked into paying 250k. We all paid 210k or less per token.
Unlike fools like you, most of us are able to see market manipulation, and it also only cost one person 20 bucks 5 years ago to test.
You can find proof going back to when tokens started that blizzard is the one footing the bill for the extra gold.
Blizzard didn’t say what you said they did. To quote, again;
Depending on the market it may take more or less time for a token to sell. It can take up to several days for a token to sell.
WoW Tokens are sold in the order they are listed on the Auction House. You will always receive the amount of gold you were quoted when putting the token up for sale.
If a token you posted does not sell after two weeks, contact [Customer Support] to check the status.
That’s the whole article. Nowhere, not once, does it say they are going to give you the gold regardless of if the token sells.
Try again, please.
Reading comprehension you daft fluffy felonious feline fox.
You will always receive the amount of gold you were quoted when putting the token up for sale.
You will always.
Will always.
ALWAYS.
Do you understand what that means?
Even if noone played the game
You would receive that gold. Even if gold didn’t exist in any other method…you would get that gold.
Even if the token were to never sell to a player because there was a billion tokens in front of you…
You get that gold.
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The irony of this statement when you have no clue what this means in context;
Despite having been told multiple times.
What they are saying in this instance is that no matter how long the token takes to sell, you will get the gold it was listed for at the time of your purchase of the token.
It is not saying they’re going to give you the gold if it doesn’t sell.
Seriously, go ask CS if you think I’m pulling your leg. There’s a whole forum for it, chief.
No. Always.
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Thats a guarantee of gold for token.
Not that someone will buy the token.
Not gold when someone buys the token.
Not gold if someone buys the token.
A one line contractually binding guarantee that if you have not got that gold in a timely manner, they will get it to you.
No. It’s not guaranteeing your token will sell. It’s guaranteeing that you will receive the amount you agreed to on purchase when it sells.
Go ask CS. Stop saying “nuh uh” and put your money where your mouth is. You have the tools, the forum has the technology;
But for what it’s worth, your token’s going to sell. Blizzard doesn’t have a reason to buy tokens for you.
And if someone didnt pay the price of the token yet you got the quoted price
Thats blizzard buying it, not them.