New Book gets lore wrong? Blood Elves weren't addicted to fel

What? No.

Night Elves do not have the same physiological changes to fel that Blood Elves do. In fact we don’t even know what the physical changes would be as we’ve never seen them. As for Outland, not all areas of Outland were saturated by fel energy. Certainly some areas were, such as Shadowmoon Valley, but Terrokar Forest (where the bulk of the High Elves in Outland are living) is not tainted in the same manner, so they would not have suffered exposure to fel.

They did not state this. They evaded the question and focused on why their eyes were green even if they did not tap into fel, but they never explicitly stated that Blood Elves did not siphon from demons.

It was a project that was abandoned by Blizzard and much of the lore in the encyclopedia has since been overwritten by the Chronicle and other lore sources. Just because it was copied to wowpedia doesn’t make it valid.

With the new calls made to warcraft races, some things have to be changed to sell a better image.

See forsakens that now protect life. :crazy_face:

That’s not accurate and Blizzard came out and expressly stated that what was visible there was a placeholder.

Saytr… Illidan… We have several examples.

Heck you could argue felbourne.

I thought you were referring to the Burning Crusade commentary from the Collectors Edition, so I just pulled that out and re-watched it. Unfortunately, they didn’t say what you were referring to, so it wasn’t that. Can you link to the other BC commentary that you’re referring to?

New idea of ​​another elf race for Blizzard.

You stated the following

Night elves have been around fel energies before, and yet they were never addicted to it. Fel energy isn’t inherently more addictive than another magical source.

All elves have an addiction to magic, and just like the blood elves, night elves are transformed by magic that affects them.
You know… like the nightborne.
Or the high elves that evolved from night elves deprived of the well of eternity?

its was design choice mostly for the sake of it IMO.

They covered that earlier in the QnA. Blood elves and orcs just manifest whatever magical energy is around them in a very visible way. It doesn’t really mean they are addicted to it.

But that is nuance that OTHER users, not you, seem to be missing.
Were there blood elves that did siphon? Yes.
For the most part, however, the blood elves didn’t siphon it.
So, for example, Valeera who primarily works for the Alliance king did siphon fel energy, but the PC does not engage in it, and most blood elves didn’t either.

Look at who I was responding to mate.

False, it is explicitly stated that due to Outland’s proximity to the twisted nether that there is constant ambient fel energy. Even if it werent, do you honestly think that at some point, during the time period in which the high elves were combating the Outland orcs, that they were never exposed to the ambient fele nergy?

Yes…yes they did.

“Blood elves would be horrified… Draining magic from small mana-bearing vermin is a far cry from draining magic from demons.”

Danuser also went over this as well where he stated it would not have been acceptable to the mass majority of the blood elf people. This does not mean some, such as warlocks, did not engage in it but that the blood elf population found such a notion disgusting in spite of their magical addiction.

So yes, they were that explicit.

That’s nice and all, but if the story isn’t over written, then its still canon. The entire thing doesn’t become invalid because parts of it are retconned.
Otherwise, WotLK is non-canon because Frostmourne no longer was made by demons.
Considering Danuser, Metzen, and the encyclopedia are explicit regarding the siphoning manner, as well as the fact that chronicles itself states who went to fel energy, you really can’t go with the notion that blood elves as a whole were engaging in the practice.

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Much like the felblood I suspect the Felbourne won’t be playable.

I don’t see why blood elves can’t get felblood customizations. They did rejoin the blood elves

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Aha, then why didn’t the Shendralar change a bit after sucking Fel directly from a demon for over thousands of years? Maybe the extent to which Fel is addictive depends on the race? Again, I don’t know, I’m just trying to apply logic here.

After the legion invaded Azeroth, I’m surprised the ones in Dalaran don’t have green eyes.

Could you imagine the nerd rage if they stuck to their own lore?

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They did. If you’re in the raid there are a number of nightborne who have been warped by the fel energy.
More than likely they didn’t change as much because the nightwell is a much stronger source of magic. Keep in mind it had both arcane leylines and a titan artifact power it.

The Shen’dralar, Bro. Not the Nightborne.

You know, Dire Maul and all that.

Why can’t people just call them “those night elf losers who got bodied by the horde in dire maul.”.

More than likely because Blizzard never thought about it, and those guys did have a moonwell to access.

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Remember Void Elves?

They’ve always existed, you just never saw them!!!

/s

Satyr’s willingly gave themselves over to the Legion, they did not transform as a result of exposure to fel energy. As for Illidan, he was already infused with demonic energies as a demon hunter (and yet physically he was no different from any other elf) until he consumed the power of the Skull of Gul’dan and that caused him to become far more demonic in nature.

Then why were there any normal Draenei on Outland? Because remember that exposure to fel energy causes them to mutate into Broken and then they regress further and become Lost Ones. And yet there are plenty of normal Draenei on Outland. So while yes, areas of Outland are very much infused with the energies of the Fel and the Twisting Nether, that doesn’t affect all of Outland.

Source for this? Because the Ask CDev questions state differently.

No it’s not. That’s not how canon works. If it is an abandoned project, it cannot be considered canon, especially in light of the fact that multiple pages of the encyclopedia have been overwritten by new lore. If Blizzard considered it canon, they would have kept it in place and expanded on it, or at the very least preserved it in some official medium. They did not.

Can moonwells cleanse Fel mutations canonically?

Simple…Blizzard is inconsistent. The lore regarding Outland is clear though, it is a place that is suffused in fel energy due to twisted nether being nearby.

Thats from the encyclopedia, and when you’re leveling a blood elf, you never engage in fel siphoning. Only the warlocks hiding in a cellar do. Furthermore in the interview airc posted, metzen answered what they were taught.
What they were actually doing is covered by Danuser who also stated they found such a notion bad.

Yes…yes it is. That is exactly how it works.
In fact, when the RPG lore was still around, it was still canon until Blizzard EXPLICITLY stated that it was no longer canon.
It is not within your authority to declare whether or not something is canon. By your logic, because multiple aspects of the Lich King story were overwritten, we need to consider the entire thing not canon anymore.

No idea.
Far as I know, I think when it came to WoW, its always been “How strong is the source?”

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Or you’re wrong and you’d like to think they’re inconsistent despite evidence existing to the contrary.

So outdated non-canon lore, gotcha.

Night Elves weren’t using fel magic regularly with fel crystals all over the city.

The ones that send you to get magical artifacts are the scryers. And in Netherstorm Kael & Co. are harnessing raw energy from the Twisting Nether, which is “pure” arcane and fel.

What other race had their whole city and the elite of their magical force empowered by fel magic?

Blood Elves, as a whole, did not siphon fel magic. But fel crystals WERE INSTALLED all over Silvermoon, you can literally still seem them, and magisters cannonically used fel magic too in the book.

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