New Book gets lore wrong? Blood Elves weren't addicted to fel

Blizzard: Outland is covered in fel energy.
Blizzard: Dranei turn to broken in the presence of fel energy all the time. High elves eyes turn green when fel energy is around all the time.

Also Blizzard: Puts high elves and dranei in fel irradiated areas.

You: CLEARLY YOU’RE WRONG!

Or Blizzard is inconsistent and you’re just engaging in cognitive dissonance rather than deal with the facts Blizzard presented. :man_shrugging:

“I can’t counter your argument so I’ll just call it non-canon”.
Cool, Lich king is no longer canon due to your logic.

night elves are addicted to magic just like high elves are, it is not something inherent to fel energy.

Thanks for the correction.

looks at everyone living in Outland
let alone the fact that it is explicitly stated that elves in general are addicted to magic.
Which is why the night elves have moonwells..

Fel magic isn’t inherently addicting.
Magic in itself is addicting. For elves.

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Blizzard never stated that. They said that Outland was surrounded by the Twisting Nether, which is a volatile cosmic plane where Fel energy is created by the destruction of living souls.

What? Okay, you’ve lost the plot at this point. I’m done with you.

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Yes, both were addicted to magic. But Blood Elves also used fel magic. Which is addictive, and have side effects by proximity. The addiction to magic was sated by some through arcane and others through fell.

??? Dude do you think the entirety of Outlands is 100% fel corrupted? Compare Argus to Outlands lmao

Yes, but that reality doesn’t remove the notion of Blood Elf addiction to fel specifically in some cases (Magisters, etc)

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Okay, I was reading Wowpedia and now I’m confused:

Blood elves are high elves who had temporarily turned to absorbing demonic magic after the loss of the Sunwell, and had subsequently become addicted to the fel energies

???

It cites as a source “Stormrage, page 292”.

Can anyone check?

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Fel

Fel, Arcane, Light. It doesn’t matter. You elves are all magic addicts.

they were addicted to fel. you think when they were draining demons in outland they were sucking arcane magic out of those beasts? c’mon man…

why else would our eyes go from blue to green?

Yes, they did “If you were a high elf in Outland you were around fel energy.”.
Fel energy is formed by light and void magic smashing together. It can also be created by the destruction of souls, but the twisted nether in itself is basically void energy.

I am sorry you’re not quick enough to keep up, so I shall simplify it for you.

You are saying that because aspects of the encyclopedia were retconned or made non-canon, the entire thing is not canon.
I am pointing out that based on that logic, Lich King is not canon, because aspects of Lich King have been retconned or rendered non-canon. Simply because aspects are not canon does not make the entire source non-canon.
You don’t have the authority to declare such a thing, only Blizzard does, and they did so with the RPG.

Yes, some blood elves used fel magic, but the mass majority hasn’t, which is my point. Furthermore, fel magic in itself is not innately addicting otherwise, everyone who has used it, such as warlocks, night elves, and more, would be addicted. Clearly this is not really the case and is mostly due to elven physiology.

Dude, do you think Silvermoon is 100% fel corrupted? Compare it to Argus. lmfao.

I am not arguing that some blood elves did not engage in it. I mean, anyone can simply say “Kael’thas”.
The argument is that the blood elves of silvermoon, by and large didn’t engage in it, which is what many people are thinking based off this novel.

Its because it was from Stormrage which was a novel or comic from 2009. Parts, like that one got retconned later down the line.
Sort of like how the RPG said blood elves had redder skin than high elves.

Except, that isn’t the PC or the mass majority of blood elves. That was Kael’thas followers and we killed nearly all of them outside the scryers who stopped the practice.

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And because of that, you’ve lost the plot. That logic is so colossally stupid, that you need to be loopy to think that it works that way. As I said, I’m done with you.

I am laughing so hard at this.

Absolutely the best description of the Shen’dralar ever. :ok_hand:

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Because it was not just fel that created the broken. It was a specific weapon called “The Red Mist” that was used at the siege of Shattrath.

Just like it is surmised that the plague of undeath was also a fel creation targeting humans.

That is literally YOUR logic in regards to the encyclopedia.
If you think its such stupid logic, why do you still hold onto it?
Seriously, how incredibly lack in self-awareness can you be?

I am glad you’re done, it will save many the effort of reading what you write.

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Both suffused with fel… That’s the sort of thing night elves become when afflicted with fel…

Why is it that the male human paladin players the one so self assured in what they state as being law?

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The Red Mist was a form of weaponized fel energy, and only those who fought at Shattrath were exposed to it. Which explains why Nobundo was turned into a Broken, as he was fighting at Shattrath when the Orcs deployed the mist. However, Akama was not present at Shattrath (he was exposed to fel energy while defending Karabor) and yet he was mutated into one of the Broken as well.

Satyrs again choose to become demons and were physically changed into their forms by the Burning Legion. They were not created as a result of ‘fel exposure’. We have examples of Night Elves using demonic magic to sate their magical addictions without any physical side effects in the form of the Shen’dralar.

There’ve been multiple scenarios in which Devs speak out on what is considered canon or what is partially canon in regards to it’s lore, specifically based around the point of view and how things actually are. Just because the book says one thing doesn’t make it canon depending on what the Devs decide. However, you have to remember that it was canon for quite some time until it was reconned, so it’s one of those things you simply have to take with a grain of salt and understand there are things that should be altered in the story to make it actually canon now rather than fanon/non-canon.

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They’re turned into Saytr via a curse… A fel based one.

You’ll note that illidan looks conspicuously like a Saytr… He is entirely a night elf suffused with fel.

What do you think those green crystals in Silvermoon are?

Hint - It isn’t void energy. What kind of energy is most associated with sickly green I wonder?

I also will conveniently forget my early days as a blood elf back in BC and doing stuff with those crystals…feeding myself off them and ignoring those withered elves I slayed.

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Says that the Fel Energies that mutated him was the “Red Pox”.

" The most well-known survivors are Nobundo and Akama."

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Please, explain to me what you think gave them the green in their eyes then?
That certainly isn’t nature, arcane, necromancy, death, void, shadow, or light magic.

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the vast majority of orcs did’nt drink the demon-blood either, but they’re still green. just take it as a ‘one for most’ type of thing, kinda like how the mag’har on outland are still pure, but the orcs on azeroth are fel-corrupted. only, y’know, reverse.