That’s a very niche case and the gear you described is 3 ilvls apart, that isn’t exactly saying intellect is the least important stat.
Not sure what gave you that idea? Because it comes from delves? By that logic the ring must of not been a gain for most of the patch because we weren’t on siren island. The belt will likely be bis until champion gear next patch, maybe heroic depends where tuning goes
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The thing is, just my chest as an example, with your stat weights the int gives me 134.4k DPS and my secondaries give me less than ~66k. Even if Int was your worst stat amount of intellect you gain makes up for its value. Question becomes…is the belt worth the loss of stats for the int gain, and that can be easily figured out when you consider the belt has multiple stat proccing effects that we can math out their rough static value.
Critical Chain grants 1230 crit every 2 seconds that stacks up to 12,230 crit at the end of the duration. Wowhead states it has a 20 second ICD according to WoWhead, but someone said it procs once every 1.5 minutes.
Let’s ASSUME it procs once every minute though. Doing some semi-complicated math we can average the proc out to be worth 2255 crit rating. We typically do this by multiplying duration against the assumed cooldown meaning if you get 10000 stats for 10 seconds from a 60 second on use trinket you can do 10000 x 10 / 60 to get a static value of 1,666.66 stats. In the case of the crit proc you basically have to do that 10 times for each 2 second interval and add them all up (which is 2255 crit). I suppose I’m not sure if the final tick has a duration to it, or if it immediately drops off, but that’d kill 410 value and bring it down a bit. However, procs tend to have stronger value considering you can line them up with CDs if you’re cognizant and this static value can really fluctuate based on how often the proc is happening. The other one is Spark Burst which is a lot more straight forward, if we assume 1 PPM it gives 1811 static haste.
I’m too lazy to look up exact numbers, but a 684 belt is gonna have like 1800 in secondaries or so? Meaning the secondary procs keep its value competitive.
Bottom line, belt is very likely to be good/comparable to other top end loot, even if you are doing something like trying to figure out what is best based on outdated stat weight calcs.
they also say “They do have some value if used correctly.” so i guess the truth is somewhere in the middle 
Great execution 
It’s not accurate because stat weight calculations are determined be adding and removing a set amount of each stat on its own. But this doesn’t account for what if I add more of that stat or what happens if i add that stat and loose some amount of another stat. All that said and like you said it does give you some idea. But simming upgrades is so simple now it’s really the only way to go
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that’s all I’m saying here. i don’t use it either.
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I use all the tools on raidbots not just one of them.
No I didn’t point that out cuz I didn’t think I’d need to
I really don’t want to write a thesis on my raidbot sims for a forum post.
I do sim my choices on every vault, well I did when vault had things that might have been upgrades. Simc will include them so all I have to do is click “max all” on the crests thingy and then select them for the “Top Gear” sim.
Droptimizer tells me the Alchemist’s stone trinket is an upgrade, but it’s not according to Top Gear if I just fully upgrade my trinkets. We all know why droptimizer is wrong so I’ll just do the upgrades,
I don’t anymore cuz I already know crafted gear was all I needed.
Now I just take the tokens for the crests.
I don’t need crafted gear anymore, according to the sims.
rn, all I have left is upgrading the trinkets I have and then thats it for me for gearing this expac unless I want to grind visions for the helm enchant or do LFR for the tokens to get one hero raid trinket.
Not gonna bother with that really. I can’t make the time investment. I don’t get to play as much as I’d like so I have to choose what things I participate in.
Delves are the best for me with my available play time. Doing LFR or m+ would take time away from delves, and I’d be spending most of my playtime trying to get into pugs. Some nights that might mean I spend all the play time I had trying to get into a pug then not having time to even play the dungeon.
So delves are better for me and yes, the belt is an upgrade for me. That really never was in question tho.
i was about to say man this is getting a little much no? holy cow…its a game ffs…
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point for point int has less scaling than secondaries, a common occurrence.
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The nerf nuke today destroyed the belt
Static charge was nerfed today.
No it didn’t. You just have to figure out what the changes are.
It’s because it’s a snapshot. Your stat weights change overtime, depending on what else you have a equipped.
Wow just ran that and it says Strength is the worse stat for my Ret, its not even close to more secondary stats.
Could it be the sims are weird at the moment?
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Not surprised, Blizz gives me crap harmonius gear for my mages and rogues and other dps. Seems like a ploy to just drain all the critical strike chance out of my dps characters.
I’m not seeing that. Charged Bolts was nerfed. Static Charge was buffed.
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some specs primary is actually low priority, just scaling things and more reasons why we do squishes.
For sure.
I did the math as an example for anyone to read so anyone trying to decide to trust raidbots or not can use common sense.
Point is you can math out the procs if you want to, and start playing with assumptions on proc amount/uptime (and test it on a dummy) so you don’t have to blindly trust or doubt the sims when comparing raw stats to procs if you are inclined to put a little common sense and elbow grease on some real world testing.