Nerf starsurge! this is a joke!

The great thing is it’s a rune so it scales every level meaning at 40 it’s a level 40 spell so you don’t need to worry about a new rank.

Idk what the talents are but they get 100% crit damage bonus talent.

If it crits at 40 with say 150 spell power or whatever is going to be in Gnomer I think a 600+ crit isn’t out of the realm of normal.

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If it’s hitting for 450 at 40 for a normal hit expect to see 1k crits lmfao.

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Yeah it seems pretty strong now, but again, we don’t really know what HP etc. is going to look like. I have 1250 HP, that would be an absurdly high number at 25 in classic era.

That hasnt stopped other nerfs though tbf. I’m all for waiting till next phase for nerfs either way.

Without starsurge druids would have zero dps viability in pvp as feral is pure dog water atm.

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I don’t see how feral can be good in pvp in classic

Without starsurge it would go back to the people who play druid playing druids, and they would still do fine. Sounds lovely.

The situation is nothing less than yikes when a single button is carrying players that couldn’t otherwise play the class at even 40% effectiveness :man_shrugging:

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We are level 25.

Maybe see how it carries into the next phase?

Frostbite is a root not a slow.

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It scales with level, and has huge SP scaling last I checked.

There’s no mystery here lol.

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I know what it is.

I’m a mage rofl.

I was just saying what warbringer rune does.

lol i love when people be like “why not PLAY YOUR WHOLE CLASS” as if every specialization doesn’t focus on a small portion of their class and as if druid specs aren’t literally designed to de-emphasize the other specs

like moonkin form literally shuts off healing spells, what do you want from me? love shifting out of moonkin form to access like remove curse or whatever for 600 mana, makes me feel like i’m really ACCESSING THE WHOLE CLASS lol

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Bro it ALMOST hits(crit) that hard now, we have 15 levels and inflation of damage to consider.

TLDR AT BOTTOM

The damage of the spell:

-The base damage of the spell is basically 200 at top end
-With talents that would have brought that up to a 400 dmg crit while naked at lvl 25
-I’m under the impression that it scales 100% but could be 75-100%.
-I anticipate spell power is going up to around 200-250 as well, it could very easily go higher.

-At level 26 starfire does 177 top end
-At level 42 starfire does 348 top end
-It currently hits for 80% of the top end of pyroblast, which at 40(lvl 42) will be 400 dmg.

I would assume that starsurge will continue to hit harder than starfire, so an avg of 350 is close to what Stari said.

350+200 is a 550 non-crit or 1100 crit, for the sake of argument and applying some leeway to my argument let’s say it instead crits for a flat 1000 or even 900.

How much hp will we have:

A TBC/Classic twink at level 49(9 levels above phase 2) could have hp in the low 2000’s or as high as about 3200.

They had access to enchants we won’t see for 8 to 10 more months, if ever.

Level 40 we will probably see HP cap out at 2000 or 2300 at most with some gear.

Some math
-WoWhead gearplanner has a 49 human warrior at 1729 hp
-3200 minus 1729 is 1471
-shave off another 250 for enchants and you get 1221 bonus hp from level 49 gear
-A 40 human warrior has only 1189hp

If we have lvl 49 twink equivalent stamina on our gnomer gear at level 40, a warrior would probably have about 2410 hp, runes and enchants will move the needle depending on class.

If it trends even similarly to what it does now we will see it taking AT LEAST 1/3 of your hp on a crit, and it won’t be farfetched that for some people this 6 second cd from 42 yards is taking literally half of your hp on a crit.

TLDR
You will be lucky to have 2400 hp unbuffed if you picked a warrior equivalent class, squishies will have 2100. The spell will be critting for 800-1100+ in gnomer gear…
on a 6second cd…
from 42 yards…

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Yea if it’s going to normal hit at 40 for like 500 expect over 1k crits.

Just because the ability scales with level does not mean it will account for the same percentage of health lost in pvp at 40 that it does at 25.

Have u guys ever noticed that the people who are mad at Druids for not playing their “whole class” only care when the druid isn’t tanking or healing for them

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Nice try bud, you’re pressing 1 button. Only class like that rn, like who are you even trying to convince?

Tell me you don’t play a druid without telling me. In PvP you use your forms extensively, you wouldn’t know this because you’re being carried by Starsurge.

And you don’t even take moonkin form in endgame PvP lmao.

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It’s well documented that taurens cast and attack from 2.55 or 2.2y further away than everyone else.

gonna be so sad

A druid only using starsurge is a dead druid.