Nerf Shamans : Lava burst should not get 100% crit from Flame shock

50%. Where can I get the patch notes?

You can trinket more than once per cooldown? Wow!

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Short of the batteries in their mouse dying there is no valid reason for a rogue to lose to an enh shammy.

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what if- and hear me out- you passively resist the rogueā€™s kidney shot

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Hear you out? Sure.

Evasion. You canā€™t hit a rogue who pops it with anything except shocks. No melee hits means no maelstrom stacks, which means no instant spells like healing wave nor lightning bolt. Also no windury procs, no + nature damage taken debuff from stormstrike, and several GCDs wasted on the wrong abilities.

Rogue still wins on resisted stuns.

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Agreed

reduced the CD a couple of seconds and reduce the cast time by a second and a half or so and call it good

50% dodge chance vs a DW rune that gives you 10% free hit chance = 0 possible hits I guess?

why are we even talking 1v1? I guess because the guy I was responding to framed it that way

Because rogues are stronger in the 1v1 than shamans, but if you lose that argument you need to deflect to something else.

given the context of my post I was clearly talking about the class in a team fight. but I guess if you want to assume 50% dodge chance with evasion = no hits, is it a fair assumption to say every lava burst is going to overload?

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60-70% of a shamans damage is from weapon swings. Thatā€™s enough for a rogue to outright win the fight if even a couple of dodges happen.

You can see the amount of brain dead players that are playing shaman at the moment. None of them can grasp that they are strong in a group setting and always fall back on ā€œOh no a rogue can beat me with 15mins of CDs up, they need a nerf!ā€

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I love people jumping on a Shaman to talk negatively about other players that have been playing one since day 1. What do you what us to do? stop playing the class? lol

Most of us agree that Shamanā€™s (Ehn was way OP, not so much Ele till Burn rune) are a bit overtuned and in group battle Eleā€™s are second to none. Though, I will say it a Lock and Mage can make life difficult for Shamans. CoT will reck any Ele, period.

Just post on ur original class which is probably a Paladin. So, we can at least make fun of you. lol Only Warriors, Mages can complain freely here. =)

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CoT will reck any ele period! Its not like CoT affects every other caster in the game. Typical brain dead shaman response

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Arenā€™t we talking about Eleā€™s? What a dumbass.

Yep and your reasoning behind eles not being strong is a warlock can slow the casting speed of their instant cast lava bursts / flameshocks.

This is how bad the general shaman is.

This is exactly why ā€œweā€ shamans love sticking it to you dumbasses that can only come back with ā€œbut eleā€™s dont need to castā€. You are being super disingenuous. I bet you will make an alt of the next OP class and come on here and complain to try and make urself look genuine.

wait till this shaman finds out what his #1 damage ability in BGs is.

Guys, remember we dont have to cast.

Whats the problem? Clerics get Holy Burst 100% crit on targets affected by Holy Shock. Seems balanced

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You can do more damage than any other caster in BGs at the moment while not casting. Stop being so braindead

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Another straight up lie. Say hello to Boomkins.