Uh, WHAT?! You do realize penance isn’t even USED in BFD right? Like, it’s Prayer of Mending and Circle of Healing. You can use penance on some of the fights, but it’s mostly just aoe healing.
Yea no… people are barely using that. And no, it’s absolutely not the best physical debuff. In fact most people don’t want it used because it messes with other debuffs while just being on par with them. And again, Prayer of Mending is king in the raid.
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Penance should be your big mana oh snap button.
Instead it is you best burst healing, your most mana efficient spell, and your best offensive spell.
Rank 3 lesser heal costs 75 mana and heals for about 170.
penance cost 79 heal and heals for 170 a tick, while also being much easier to cast while being attack, and having a shorter overall cast time. it just so much better than your other heals it makes so sense.
also ppl saying that “penance doesnt heal someone for all their life” are being disingenuous.
lets do the math:
my priest is better geared than most ppl in sod (wsg honored and a few bfd items). im sitting at about 1k hp.
so when ppl are saying “it heals them to full” they dont mean it heals someone from 0 to 100. they mean it regularly appears to heal someone from very low hp (~20%) to very high hp (~80).
so any good priest can use pom → penance. the first tick of pom and penance will happen nearly instantly healing for a total of about 350. then the additional 2 pumps of penance will bring that to just over 700. now if pom bounced back, or you cast shield you have effectively “healed” for about 1k hp very very quickly.
i would say on average you need 3 ppl to kill a priest or to kill the target of the priest, this is from my own experience.
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They don’t need to revert nerfs, just give Priests good runes next phase.
Every top Warrior parse has a Priest running Homunculi.
Stop arguing with me, just go look on warcraft logs. The data is literally on my side. SMH. Like we’re arguing whether it is day or night and the window is open but you don’t want to look out the window.
According to reports I’ve seen online less than 5% of players have completed BFD, so it would seem that many people are struggling with it. Or perhaps 95% of the population just isn’t willing to try? Judging by the number of people I see LFM for 5/7 raids, it seems Kelris is still a major issue for a lot of people.
Assuming that Kelris is an issue, you think an average PuG would benefit from bringing two Resto Shaman or two Druids? Please.
About a week ago less than 10% of the population was even 25 so that doesn’t say anything.
pretty sure hunter pets doing more damage than most classes and being impossible to kill is ruining PVP.
What why? It’s not that in ANY version of the game. Ever. Why would it EVER be that in SoD?
My priest has 1400 HP. My Paladin has 1600 UNBUFFED.
My penance ticks for 184 in my PVP gear. That’s 552 health over 3 seconds. That’s 1/3 of the life my priest has, and 1/4 of the life my paladin has with Fortitude. No one is being disingenuous here but you with bad numbers.
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Seems to me that all the whiners in this thread just need to get good. We blow Priests up all the time in WSG. You’re all out here acting like they’re immortal Gods. Even with 3 of them in a WSG group, they’re not hard to kill. Improve your gameplay.
If you’re crying about getting 1v1’d by a Priest in the open world because your class has no interrupts, that’s another thing. But 1v1 has never been what PvP balance is about.
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These jokes write themselves tbh.
I get solo’d by hunter pets because I can’t reach the hunter and can’t kill the pet. But yea, priests are so OP…
Oh this is complete nonsense. Priest is so broken right now. Why pretend otherwise?
Only reason would be if you are playing priest. That simple.
People are just bad. It’s really that simple. They won’t be happy until we’re all sitting in town looking for healers for 2 hours to do any content.
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If you lose a 1v1 against anyone as a Priest you’re not good.
Duels don’t matter so that isn’t really why Priests are OP, but completely laughable argument. All you’ve said is “I’m not good”.
I’m playing Hunter, actually. Even after all the nerfs I still dunk on a Priest.
Get good.
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I am not talking about priest 1v1.
Im talking about WSG.
Your pets are still broken to hell as well
The op penance is why they should not have separate tuning rules for PVP. If there wasn’t separate tuning on wsg, they’d just die.
I’m sorry but you play with and are dueling trash cans if this is your experience.
Also saw TONS of Priests in the Mok Gara tournament. Ha…haa…ha.
Ok so you have like 30% more hp than the average player? Most ppl in bgs have about 1k hp. Like I said I have wsg honored and 2 bfd items. You must be basically full bis.
So with the average player having about 1k hp Pom + penance heals for like 70% hp
If you can’t kill a Priest in WSG - even with 3 of them healing each other - you and your group need to l2p. Especially if you’re on Horde side. As both a Shaman and an Undead Rogue I have no issues killing a Priest, even 1v1.
I can tell you this, I am better than you and you are wrong. There are plenty of classes that can 1v1 a priest. Not all classes, which is likely when you are here whining and being wrong.
Citations please? Citations at all. Would love some citations.

This forum is kind of hilarious. Classic Andies are something else.
I looked at your Retail character to see if you’ve achieved anything, as maybe you were secretly a glad pumper, but nah, you’re literally just a Classic Andy.
I had my laughs, but I think I’ve had enough fun.