NElf Genocide Didn't Happen

JFC WTF.

Yeah, though is not just him. Afrasiabi also said in an interview that Sylvanas was “very important” to him.

I mean starting the game with literally no context about what is happening or why things are happening is the problem. They are supposedly revamping the leveling experience to fix that. Pretty sure anyone with a couple brain cells can realize “burning an entire city full of people = bad” without needing to know previous lore.

Removing that just makes it seem that the factions hate each other for no reason white washing everything the horde has done.

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deep sigh Bloody hell.

I hated War of Thorns too, and the way they handled the story, particularly with how badly the Night Elves got doomed… but to just unwrite all that? After all this time?

There’s got to be some sort of consequence of what’s going on, like ffs why can’t we just save the souls of those who died in the war instead? Give them that one last chance at life once more that was cruelly stolen from them by a madwoman?

It’s not exactly the best beat I think, since it kind of takes away from the consequence of loss and tragedy but ffs it’d be better than just unwriting what happened from existance story wise…though doing nothing would be just as bad.

Hopefully Blizzard reconsiders this.

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I understand. Have some cocoa and maybe you’ll feel better about it in the morning?
Also, Blizzard is REALLY gonna need to state why these changes to the intros as well as the brushing aside of teldrassil. I’ll hear them them out as long as they’re good reasons of course.

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If they didn’t burn the tree, what happened with Tyrande? She is the Night Warrior seeking vengeance for what?

Is this going to be used to turn her into a raid boss because she dreamt of the tree burning?

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I’d honestly prefer this. Chromie showing up and just going “nah let’s not do that” and reverting us back is somehow less stupid than what we’re getting.

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Kerrigan treatment.

Sure she may have genocides everything, but it’s ok cause she cute. :face_vomiting:

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Oh jeez I hope not…come on Blizzard… guys, you’re doing a lot of cool stuff for this expansion, at least keep it up for the story

I think the reason they’re changing it is for new players. Blizzard has an issue with all players asking “Are the Horde baddies?”

When you’re a new player and your first interaction with a faction is “We burned down the capital city of another race and killed thousands of men, women and children” without any prior knowledge as to why it’s going to paint the horde as baddies.

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Let’s go way back to resurrecting illidan.

Leave him dead on black temple, or caged up or whatever.

Find a way to not stab azeroth, move onto a better story. :+1:

But can you really argue with that?
Look at that sweet sweet undead booty!

Again, why does it matter for horde characters to have Teldrassil’s burning shoe horned into the intro?

It doesn’t matter to those new players, the information THEY NEED, needs to be something more immediate, to get themselves immersed and getting into the story.

Again, BFA zones will not matter to new players when they first start out. They don’t need some massive lore dump of everything little thing that went wrong in the horde vs alliance fighting.

The intros are for a BRIEF and short introduction to the race you picked, and the quests are there to help build the narrative and help players understand whats going on.

They aren’t whitewashing anything, the information simply is not that important at THAT stage of the game.

The intro’s aren’t for veterans, they are for new players.

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Please let Greymane kill her while shouting “begone thot!”

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They’re trying to create a coherent starting experience that doesnt involve several expansions’ worth of lore for new players (such as why there’s a giant sword in the planet.

However… I think it completely sucks the personality out of the story as well as the individual races. I, as well as many other horde players, enjoy the dark or savage elements of our respective character races. Seeing them reduced to bland, homoganized cultures that have nothing but physical differences is as frustrating to some of us as it for any alliance players who feel like our past deeds are being overlooked or covered up.

Personally I want to be a wild, ominous, voodoo practicing troll. Not a blue version of serene, dehorned, peace loving tauren.

A large number of forsaken are obviously upset about the change. Just going by the number of sylvanas threads we still see from loyalist forsaken and Belves we can see that their sinister nature is something important to their character identity.

Don’t get mad at horde, the lore and personality of our races suffer from this change as well.

Direct your frustrations at blizzard, who is trivializing alliance suffering/story and white-washing unique racial horde identity. All for the sake of a slightly less confusing new player experience.

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I’d pay 5 dollars to see and here that in a cinematic.

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New undead said he strive protect the living

First Brill quest - poison dwarf with deadly beer and turn human into a ghoul

PrOtEcT ThE LiViNg

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So they know horde aren’t heroes, they’re despicable savages grasping for power by any means necessary.

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Well… they are? Whitewashing it all away doesn’t change that they did it.

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And this thread is an excellent example of why we have flat-earthers.

Take some unsubstantiated claims and spin them into a grand conspiracy because some guy you find trustworthy on the internet said something that you think supports what you already believe about the evil nefarious organization that you think is destroying the world. Flat-earthers have NASA/the UN, the WoW forums have Blizzard/Activision/Ion.

They are not the baddies. Sylvanas is.

But a new player may have a hard time figuring that out.

Bet that just goes away too.