You seem very optimistic about it, but I just don’t believe in it anymore. Not after they’ve even managed to make us lose in the revenge patch. They’ll find a way to deny us freeing the souls from the maw and later have Sylvanas either become the hero or some untouchable god entity like the titan of death.
Because you know… freeing night elf souls would be something positive for them. They are very careful with things like that to make it as unsatisfying as possible, just like everything that happened to the night elves in the entirety of WoW and especially BfA.
Eh it’s not optimism it’s realism. We can’t half fix the Maw and leave some souls that don’t belong there. The other realms of the Shadowlands would be wanting their souls back.
Realism for me is that the night elves get what they always get: Either nothing or more devastating defeats.
We don’t really know how the maw works yet, and what we’ll be doing with the situation. I’m sure they will find a way to tell us that freeing those souls from the maw would be bad.
And at this point it wouldn’t even surprise me if they do let us free the souls, but specifically leave the night elf souls in it just to rub it in further.
Not. a. single. positive. moment. allowed.
But that mount though
I think you need to walk away for a while and find something else to get your mind off this whole thing. Speaking from experience, letting this much hate fester in you over a game doesn’t help you. Walking away from it is the best thing you can do.
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Well I still play the game also for other reasons than the lore, but I will never ever be able to understand how they can punish a part of their fanbase that much and every time I think we’ve reached the lowest possible point for the Night Elves, they manage to make it even worse (with the whole maw thing and eternal torment for those innocents that died, for example). I wonder what will come next after the Sylvanas redemption to make it worse.
I’m hoping to make a difference by complaining in the forums and on reddit, but I guess it’s not possible.
His point was that one of the selling points of Reforged was updating things to better for into current Warcraft lore, this included new VA, expanded scenes ect.
Then Blizz came and said they weren’t going to do any of that new stuff.
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Look I know this is bait and all but
Alot of people dont care about the lore (partially due to it being worse than the sequel trilogy)
But most people just care about the Class changes.
Altought currently we have too little information on it all, and blizzard probably wont introduce fun stuff like outlaws Cannon Barrage etc.
as a wise Dark Iron Dwarf once said…
“A night elf laughed at me for living inside a volcano. Well at least I don’t have to worry about my mountain burning now do I! What… too soon?”
More things change more they stay the same…
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Claims are posted that they’re ruining Tyrande’s character, but the truth is she’s always been a snot since Warcraft3. Or were you skipping through the cutscenes and missed where she told both Thrall and Jaina to get lost when they met to try and team up vs Archimonde? Couple that with Varian telling her to have patience, her vitriol during the Val’shara missions, and her attitude towards Thalyssra and the nightborne, and… Well, given what’s happened, there’s nothing really surprising going on when it comes to Tyrande in regards to her 8.3 voice lines.
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Didn’t even know that one yet, what a nice little touch for further mockery. Can’t wait for more, it seems like they can never stop
The Scourge, Forsaken, and Lich King/Death Knights, along with their themes and aesthetics were conceived decades before anyone in Blizzard even thought up Maldraxxus. It’s obvious that when they created Maldraxxus, for the new expansion, they designed it based on those pre-existing things.
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For all I am concerned with, both the Forsaken and the Night Elves got screwed in this expansion. Both races are stuck in limbo and lost numerous innocent people in BFA.
To focus on poor poor NElves is ignorant.
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Shamans speaking to the dead is not something that’s restricted to Orcs on Draenor.
Of the 3 instances where above where I mentioned shamanism/voodoo was involved in dealing with people in the afterlife in BfA: Cairne Bloodhoof, Vol’jin, and Bwonsamdi. Tauren and Trolls. And all those instances happened on Azeroth.
Tauren and Trolls are the OG shamans of Azeroth. The Darkspear Trolls and Orcs take a lot of their influence from Tauren, but there’s also independent shamanic and ancestor worshiping traditions among all the other troll tribes, the Wildhammer Dwarves, Furblog, and Pandaren.
It’s the most widely practiced belief system, right alongside faiths centered around the Light/Naaru. Probably more widely practiced, and dealing with the spirits of the dead is a bigger part of it than it is with any other belief system.
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Think of the Worgen! They lost Gilneas to Sylvanas in Cataclysm and had to take up residence in Teldrassil, until Sylvanas burned that down. Genn Greymane especially as Sylvanas killed his son, and now she’s gone and razed two of his only homes, further diminishing his already very very small population.
That’s the guy who should really be on a Sylvanas revenge kick. If anything, Tyrande should be following his lead, because he’s been personally hunting Sylvanas and foiling her plans for years. To make matter worse, he’s often been portrayed as shortsighted in his desire for vengeance and an Alliance warmonger.
Now he has the perfect chance for him to turn to everyone and go, “See? I was right about her and the Horde!” and finally get to play the role of hawk. Face down Sylvanas and finally get a resolution to their back and forth that we’ve seen play out for over a decade…
But no. He reluctantly seems to go along with Anduin, and now Sylvanas’ arch nemesis is Tyrande. The people she’s hurt the most are the Night Elves. One of the zones/covenants we go visit in the Shadowlands is pretty much Night Elf heaven, and we’re going to be spending time in the Maw releasing Night Elf souls so they can get there (or back to Azeroth).
And nobody will ever apologize to the Worgen/Genn.
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Because you weren’t personally attacked… Night Elf fans have been. 8.1 was a love letter to Night Elf fans… But the kind of love letter an abusive spouse gives their Stockholm victim.
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On some levels, Worgen/Gilnean Humans should never get an apology for all the terrible crap that happened to them.
They built a wall to exclude themselves from the world. Then when the wall came crashing down, they paid dearly for it.
I don’t blame Genn for wanting vengeance for his son’s death but Genn was incredibly arrogant to think he can go it alone in this world.
Yeah. Sure. A story going in a direction you really don’t care for is totally comparable to domestic abuse. That’s not at all hysterical hyperbole.
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I am rather disappointed that we don’t have smug Genn in this/next patch gloating about being right about Sylvanas all along. At least let him try to rub the Horde’s face in it, so they can have some Alliance character to be angry at!
While I agree about the terrible night elf portrayals, as my post history may indicate, I think it’s a disservice to everyone on this forum to dismiss other fans of other groups. There were a lot of bad plot points handed out this expansion, and people who feel strongly about their own preferred group are likely to feel the negative points against their group far more deeply than the points than the others. That’s no less true for us than anyone else here.
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Forsaken didn’t lose a single innocent they were all evacuated from lordaeron. Night Elf innocents however all died a painful death and are forever trapped in the maw now.
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