I was under the impression that TL3 wasn’t taken away with reports alone and that the reports had to involve account action or five removed posts.
My TL went from 3 to 2 yesterday after getting mass flagged on posts dating back to April. As in, even bug reports made months ago got flagged.
All posts were restored to my knowledge - there wasn’t a single “removed” notification that you’d normally receive if a post was removed. My account wasn’t actioned. I haven’t had a vaca since June of last year.
I submitted a ticket yesterday and the response highly suggests reports alone are enough to kill someone’s TL3:
When did this change? Why did it change from “moderator confirmed reports” to this?
Or did a post from someone else’s 404d topic get nuked? But even then I haven’t received any “removed” notifications, so that wouldn’t make sense either.
TL3 isn’t a big deal to me but it’s not cool if false mass flagging is enough to hurt someone’s TL3.
Well, you do kinda make a lot of “inflammatory” threads on General Discussion. If you are getting flagged THAT much, you might want to scale it back. It’s gonna catch up to you.
I can understand if you don’t agree with the posts I make. I’m not asking about that though - I’m asking why reports alone are affecting TL. Reports that are supposedly “thrown out” when the post is restored.
I got flagged hard overnight on Friday. You’ll see they were restored, and the “staff notified” message was for a thread that got hidden three times, but restored yet again.
https://i.imgur.com/Zap3izY.png
Which included “inflammatory” posts like this:
https://i.imgur.com/C3Bbiz2.png
You can disagree with the content of my posts. That’s fine. I hope you’re not suggesting that people should be able to affect another person’s TL status though, not without actual mod confirmation of rules violation.
I’m hoping someone can give me a little more info as to what exactly happened. Perhaps there’s something I’m missing. Perhaps I had a 5th post removed somewhere and I didn’t get notified. That’s fine. As it stands, my understanding based on what happened, when it happened, and the GM’s response is that reports alone can affect someone’s TL status. That’s not adding up to me.
Irrelevant. If you getting flagged that much consistently, it’s sending a message to Blizzard. Restoring the posts means nothing. You are digging a hole, and I am not the only one that sees it.
Maybe it’s a subtle hint from Blizzard saying “Knock it off”? The forums mods have large discretion on how to moderate. You may be “technically” following the rules with your posts, but you might want to take this as a hint from Blizzard.
To be frank, having and keeping TL3 is part with interacting with the forums as well as behaving on the forums. Getting action on the forum for misbehaving had been pointed out as something to lose that level and must be re-earn. There isn’t a magic thing that you can get once you get to TL3 that you can keep forever regardless of account actions.
This isn’t new and always been a thing for a while now.
You’re suggesting mods remove TL levels when restoring posts that they deem are not violating the rules.
With all due respect, you’re not being constructive or rational here. Your posts seem to be more targeted towards me or my posts than the subject at hand, which is “why are reports alone now enough to kill off someone’s TL3, or what did I miss?”
I have gotten messages, subtle and not so subtle from Blizzard to scale back some of my rhetoric on certain issues. I haven’t lost TL3 yet, but I’m sure that option is on the books.
You are focused too much on the details and not seeing the whole message Blizzard could be sending you.
Some of the stuff you post on General Discussion is quite borderline, Everybody on the forums sees it, If it wasn’t, you wouldn’t be flagged so much. The Moderators can do what ever they need to do. Your account probably comes up A LOT on their logs.
Your posts may not violate the rules and are restored, but the Mods could be warning you, I don’t understand why you cannot see that. The moderators don’t run from a pre-formatted script, they have rules to follow, but they also have some independence and discretion. A lot of people out there think they are stupid, they are not. They can see when someone is testing boundaries.
Have you ever been warned off by a smiling cop, when you did nothing wrong? It’s the same thing.
Also, I don’t report your posts, by the time I get around to reading them, they are already flagged, and you cannot flag an already flagged post or thread.
Well, I am talking to you directly, so what the problem?
You have to maintain your trust level by reading posts, giving and receiving likes, and not having multiple posts flagged. If you’re going to mention mass flagging, you know exceptionally well how that would be a problem for you in General Discussion. Your posts may get restored or deleted without any account sanction but that doesn’t mean you’re not breaking rules or causing problems. Playing the “I’m not touching you!” game with rule limitations is in itself inflammatory behavior, but I don’t know if that would impact your trust level.
I love you Humanbeak, but was this statement really necessary…
If they’re getting restored then by virtue they’re not breaking rules.
And if that’s now the standard, that flags alone can get TL3 removed, then that’s a problem. It goes against
Note “confirmed by a moderator”.
So if flags alone are now the standard, then nothing would stop me from mass-flagging [insert anyone I don’t like here] with my alts and stripping them of TL3. Sure, I’d get a vacation in the process, but that’s beside the point.
You’re correct, but it’s stickied by a mod so I would assume the material within it is sound. I hope.
Hopefully a blue appears from the wild (fingers crossed) and is able to offer clarification or tell me what I’m missing/did wrong. The only thing that makes sense to me at this point is a post was “removed” and for whatever reason, be it a bug or whatnot, a notification never made it to me. Or maybe it’s some rolling counter that’s lagging behind. Or maybe it really is just flags, regardless of whether they’re violations. Who knows at this point.
This is not actually true. One moderator can give an okay for a player action that another moderator ends up actioning that player for. Each person is different, and the difference between impunity and sanctions can simply be the time of day. It has happened to me several times.
No, but the flags have to be for different posts by different users. Since your alts are still under your one account, I assume mass flagging with alts would still be considered one user, especially considering that the mods can see when people do that.
Sounds like Blizzard agrees that the language was offensive.
Individual chapters in a book may not constitute enough to get labeled as a violation of community standards, but taken as a whole body of work, the book itself may be in violation.
Individual posts may slide by the ToU, but taken as a body of work, they could well be offensive in the aggregate.
Well, figures, at least you are consistent. Don’t forget your ball.
It’s quite easy, click on your profile picture, look at activity, and in a bar, it should state the Trust Level. If it doesn’t show, it’s an indicator that you are probably level 1
