Difficulty and progression need to be kept in the game, it gives people something to strive for and attain.
I’m already done most Delve stuff, just clearing some achievements. I’m approaching AOTC. I have a lot of BIS and my 4 piece. In a couple weeks I’ll have all my M+ achievements now that it’s open.
It blows my mind that ya’ll want to make this game easier. You’ll gradually erode at the integrity of the game until all that’s left is logging in and pressing a button to get free gear, so that everyone feels good and everything is “fair”. It’s absolutely childish - participation ribbon generation.
Eh, the gear from Delves is fine as is. It is good gear, easily enough to make a big difference when playing world content and delves and dungeons
its okay that it isn’t the best gear possible. Its a nice option for people like me who don’t want to raid anymore and don’t like mythic plus. I’m overall happy with them despite the rocky start and bugs
Delves are trivial content. You’re not supposed to get the best gear from trivial content.
You want the Mythic Track gear, put in the work and do M+10s or Mythic raid. There’s absolutely no reason you need mythic track gear if your end-game pillar is Delves.
You wouldn’t know that from all the complaints here. Also, I bet you don’t even have Zekvir’s Lair down.
The best gear in the game should be accessible to the average player. Not many players can maintain their attention span upgrading subpar gear every day, especially these days. It’s just how it is. If Blizzard wants people to sub more, then this is the route. Save the content that requires lots of time and memorization with others for titles.
No, it shouldn’t. If the best gear was available from the easiest content it would kill the more difficult aspects of the game because people will always go for the path of least resistance.
If you’re not capable of doing the content that rewards the highest rewards, then you shouldn’t get the highest rewards.
That’s because the people complaining here want free hands outs of the best possible gear without actually putting effort into the game. They don’t want to play the game, they just want the highest level of rewards just for participating.
If Blizzard wants people to sub more, then giving out free mythic track gear isn’t going to solve that problem, it will make it worse because people will get maxed out in gear much faster and unsub much sooner during a season.
Noone is asking for free or fast gear. Asking for more accessible gear is what people are asking for. Giving the average player slow access to the max gear lets them eventually overgear content thereby being able to do content at a level they wouldnt have before. This extends the playability of each season for the average player. Restricting access to the max gear behind mythic raid and m+10 limits the average player behind a skill cap that cannot be overgeared since they dont have access to the highest gear which actually reduces the player hours per season.
If you’re not doing Mythic level content, you don’t need mythic level gear. You can easily out gear delves with the gear that they give. T8s are incredibly easy and require little to no effort, just some time. We’re only on the second week of the season and people are flying through T8 devles below the recommended ilvl.
If you want the highest level of gear, you need to do the highest level of content that is available. In WoW, that’s Mythic Raiding and high end M+.
no keep that mythic crap out of it, the whole point of delves is so you dont have to do mythic +, grinding mythic + every season sucks its a horrible experience for a large majority of players , Delves exist because of years of complaints about it, go watch the announcement of Delves Ion lit talks about why delves exist, turning them to more mythic defeats the whole fing purpose of them.
People say this because they dont the skill to deal with the content that rewards that level of gear.
You’d pretty much have to triple the difficulty of delves to get that reward. And then youd have everyone complainig they cant do it and get it nerfed. Just like everything else
Dont want them tuned that way, then don’t get the rewards that way either.
What I mean to say, is it should be on par with difficulty. You can do that without copy pasting everything in M+. Mage Tower alone has illustrated how difficult solo content can be.
Either way, delves need mythic tracking.
A huge segment of the playing population is uninterested in posting their resume to a toxic community anymore to progress their gear. And not many people are interested in spending time upgrading subpar gear. So we are at an impasse.
And its been nerfed because people cried it was too hard
Absolutely not. And im saying this as someone that that would benefit.
No youre not. Do the content that rewards the gear. You cant put mythic track gear on solo challenges. It’ll just get nerfed and then it affects the entire gearing progress.
Raiders have to do m+ to stay competitive even if they dont want to do it (im against this mindset but thats what they claim)
M+ are already skipping low keys because of delves.
Add mythic track and now everyone is gonna have to do delves, do m+ and then raid.
The easier and more accessible “good” gear is, the more the tuning and scaling for difficulties are gonna be skewed.
Normal raid is no longer going to be tuned around that 600 ilvl, because its going to be assumed everyone is already 616 because of delves.
So now they tune normal raid around 616 ilvl but it will continue to drop 600. And this has a snowball effect. Itll catch up to delves and then everyone will be complaining and asking for the next best thing (read as easiest way to acquire gear).
Solo content should never reward power equal to group content. Want group content power, do group content
Gatekeepers gonna gatekeep.
Difficult content should reward good gear. Simple as. Group or no group.
Though gear progression should be capped at a more accessible spot, and the more difficult content should be reserved for titles. It is the way the future will go. It’s just a matter of time. Blizzard should just get to it faster.
If they want more people to remain subscribed, then relying on their interest to upgrade subpar gear is probably not the way to go.