EDIT…sorry…i dont know why this responded to the wrong person lol
I never have liked this RNG joke.
The very least the game should take time served into account and increase your changes of X dropping the more youve done that run.
I get it, some things are rare and should remain rare, so dont do it with everything, but for mogs and gear/ilvl, you shouldnt have to work for a year to get some stinking back to drop, lol.
I’m so confused… OP is mad that higher geared people are rolling need on gear they don’t need (presumably for transmog purposes)… So, exactly how does going back to PL loot solve that? Higher geared people will still queue up and PL loot will… save them a click and put it in their bag for them? I don’t get how this is the magical solution lol.
It doesn’t.
Yeah, I just want someone who is saying PL is the solution to answer the question finally lol.
Now now don’t go turning their argument against them and making more of a point than they did. They obviously have ruffled jimmies already over that 376 off hand that probably ended up disenchanted for the shard the winner needed.
Rather then ruining a mmo to make it a single player game why not encourage people who enjoy single player games to play single player games?
I don’t think their analogy is very good, but this is even worse.
LFR is volunteer service whether you’re mythic geared or a fresh 359.
Whats comical is that you don’t even know how the rolls work. Yes you can roll on off spec items but your roll doesn’t count against anyone in that loot spec. You will always lose the roll to them.
you know what?
if people with your attitude to other players quit, the community is in a better place.
Obviously people don’t think of it that way, as OP is complaining about not getting “paid” for their LFR volunteer service.
Which is why I made it clear that their analogy was bad. 
The system literally prevents them from doing that. You can’t need on a downgrade.
When you start your argument with a blatant lie, your argument gets dismissed.
group loot is trash. period,
And in any event, killing a boss where you aren’t locked out gives you primal chaos for crafting, vault progress, a rep token and some gold.
So it’s not like you left with nothing even if you didn’t get an item.
This has already been said I’m sure but there is 0 difference from personal loot. With personal loot a certain number of items dropped. The Mythic raid/plus geared player could still enter LFR and cause you to not get an item because the game gave it to them via personal loot instead.
This is how it was during the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, which was supposedly the peak of this game. Do you also complain like this when you don’t win a prize at a carnival game?
Keep in mind that since the 1950’s, most games are games of skill, and if you know the trick, you’ll win everytime, and that’s why the rules that are posted within the games’ walls always have prize limits per day. Please do not even try to say otherwise, because my family business is in the amusement industry, and we have mostly food concession spots, but do have games, and a couple of rides.
If you want to quit a game because you didn’t get what you wanted, what else do you quit?
Not everybody is treating it as if food is being taken off of their table but to pretend like the system is perfect and couldn’t be tweaked to the benefit of most people isn’t much better.
LFR is there for story for those that cant/won’t/dont do normal+ difficulty (for whatever the reason)
If people are this shook up about gear, do m+ level 2-6. these are effectively regular mythic dungeons that take slightly longer due to not having a lot of affixes. You could probably complete 2-4 of them in the time it would take to sit in the lfr queue and then actually finish the raid.
You’d likely get multiple pieces of gear (especially if you form your own group of friends or guildmates or make some friends along the way) and those pieces will be higher item level than what drops in lfr for far less time investment.
I’m not claiming that GL is perfect, but I am saying that it solves a few problems that PL has, and allows for freedom of choice in how you use it, to the point where if you want PL back you can have everyone roll need on everything they can to produce a good approximation of PL.
So I guess to put it simply:
is GL perfect: no
how does GL compare to PL: the same or better in almost every way.
Interesting I didn’t know I was a CE player? I hate personal loot with a massive passion because it’s statistically horrible. It highly encourages class stacking and hurts lesser played classes and specs. Having been generally the sole DH in my raid for most of shadowlands… it sucked never EVER getting weapon drops from aught but vault. Imagine how a dagger rogue feels? Blizz weighted the PL loot tables heavily in favor of tradable loot, which is why bosses dropped the same trinkets, necks, cloaks, and rings for everybody and the gear people actually wanted never dropped. You can’t fix that in PL. Worse the lack of ability to trade often meant things just got vendored.
If they ever bring back PL they need to make the rolls public so that people can see that they lost a roll. There are no loot gods, there is just bad RNG.
Or they could be there for transmog, or enchanting mats, or any number of other reasons. Assuming bad faith is an extremely bad approach.