Nazjatar is being stripped of resources by bots

Simple fix for this would be something I saw suggested in another thread, Zin’anthid and Osmenite in the assault zones.

This would triple the zones people could find them in, and allow real players to gather while doing the current content.
Bonus is that the 8.3 assaults have more active shards compared to Nazjatar, so gatherers would be even more spread out.
They could even add those resources to Mechagon to further smooth things out even though it’s not “current” content.

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How in the world do you think this would work? Do the servers have to keep track of every toon following another toon and figure out if its another player or not?

Do you not realize how impossible your suggestion is

If by most people agree you mean most people dont care, and only the small number of people who care complain about it.

And if by only care about money you actually mean that multi boxers make up such a small amount of the population that the income they provide is literally a drop in the ocean in terms of subs.

Then yeah.

reporting doesn’t insta-nuke them.
it takes time.

keep reporting

they usually don’t make announcements.
…but you can tell when a wave happens if you watch customer support forum :slight_smile:

On the up-side we found one in warmode and completed our CTA in like 2 minutes.

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This.

I have been playing for a few months now, and I have done a lot in Naz and I have never seen anyone botting/multiboxing and grabbing herbs…ever.

If I did I would simply move on.

This is like being at the supermarket and getting mad at someone for buying all 5 boxes of cereal left. He was there first, and he paid for those boxes just like I did (either through real money or gold, either way is the same) so exactly in what world do I feel I am entitled to something he got to first?

My solution? Easy, I go somewhere else while he gets those.

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Not that simple. The real plague has only started to get out of control in the last 2 weeks, before that it wasn’t really an issue.

As for “going elsewhere”, where do you go? You can’t force a server jump in WoW like other MMOs. Alchemists need Zin for making potions and you might go do something else the first time but then you come back and its the same the next day and again and again day after day. Eventually you run out of Zin.

The botter has more automated patience and dedication than you do. In your analogy you go to the store 10 days in a row and still have no cereal. Getting hungry yet?

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Nope because in my analogy I go to a more expensive store (auction hall) if I need it that bad.

That’s not very free market of you. Are you saying monopolization and strangulation of supply is a good way to run an economic system? Not so much …

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this isn’t true at all.

Blame Blizzard for not only allowing mboxing (a reasonable allowance from their financial point of view), but putting top tier herbs in exactly one zone (idiocy)

Really just another reason to ditch this expansion and wait for the reset that will be SL.

eh?
since when?

was server hopping disabled?
i seem to have slept through a lot of patch notes…

in your alleged reality, these bots are taking nodes which you claim don’t exist.
if the bots can get them, the nodes are obviously there…

They generally wait a bit so they can update Warden to ban anyone using that bot program instead of catching them one at a time.

I wish this conspiracy theory would die.

Activision-Blizzard pulls in billions of dollars a year. There aren’t nearly enough multiboxers to affect their bottom line.

The reason multiboxing is allowed is because it doesn’t violate any of their rules.

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The problem is sharding, or the lack thereof. Before 8.3 came out, people were still spending time in Nazjatar doing world quests and stuff. That way all the gatherers would be spread out across many shards. Now there are fewer shards and the gatherers outnumber the people questing.

Something that would help somewhat would be taking another page from Legion. Back then, you could turn Order Resources into Blood of Sargeras, and then turn around and use the Blood to buy crafting materials. What they should have done is put in a way to buy Expulsom with War Resources and then also an Expulsom vendor to buy crafting materials.

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How did you interpret it this way? This statement is nonsense. Of course the nodes “exist” they are just only up long enough for the next botter in the chain to hit it and empty it. The likelihood of a particular node being available for YOU is significantly reduced due to you not botting/boxing.

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with nearly 30k of these on the barth AH, i don’t know how you’re having issues snagging them in the wild.

if the nodes exist, they exist for everyone… not just your competition.

during cata, the botting in uldum was so bad, it was easier to sit at a node and wait for the respawn instead of flying around… and multi-tap didn’t exist back then.
it was one node, one hit.

you’re saying this has only been an issue for 2 weeks?
…bots have never been dealt with that swiftly.
not sure what you’re expecting to happen… you can either adapt, switch between wm/non wm or spend the time farming gold so you can buy the herbs instead of flying in circles.

The ones in moon guard are definitely botting. Same routes, same stop points, same movements, that’s not a person controlling the “main” one, it’s a bot and the rest just follows. Not that regular multiboxing isn’t botting too, any serious gaming company would ban them, Blizzard just pretends it isn’t because money.

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  • Most multiboxers usually follow the same/most profitable route.
  • A bunch of characters following one main and then making the same movements through broadcasting once they reach a node is exactly how multiboxing works IIRC.

Not saying they AREN’T bots but your post doesn’t really prove anything. Blizzard can probably easily see if someone is using a multiboxing addon and repeatedly hitting hotkeys typically associated with multiboxing. If it’s actually a bot then they WILL get banned eventually.

I mean…it’s true, so why not? In fact, I don’t know any games in which multiboxing is against the ToS.

Or they could work on a way where the nodes are personal so it doesn’t matter how much the multi boxers go around.

You still get to herb and mine then at your whim or buy their AH stuff if you don’t want to spend the time.