A year ago I wouldve dismissed a comment like this but now I’m more open to it
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You tried to argue that 10% of players doing higher keys means only 10% of people are capable of running higher keys. I was responding to that particular comment of yours, not necessarily your overall message regarding where M+ and delve gearing fit into the picture.
Again, what content do you actually want to spend your time doing in this game? Do you really need to do delves to be able to do that content? You still haven’t answered this.
running low keys takes more time and effort to get worse rewards than delve. why is that difficult for people to understand?
no you have to do vault on a 7 to get great vault heroic track gear
So you need me to explicitly state what the point of getting heroic raid gear is? Really? You can’t figure that out without me typing it?
ok,
here comes,
it’s to progess further in M+, Heroic and Mythic Raids.
Are we clear now?
getting hero loot from my spammable m+. wdym less rewarding?
man, we need to get you some hockey goalie pads with all the blocking you are doing on this subject. what are you up to? almost 100 posts now? sheesh.
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Cool, you don’t need to do delves to do that.
nope, heroic track is m+ 3-9
the point is that doing that many m+ is more time and effort than 8 d8
3s and t8 delves take about the same time if you have a half decent group, and it gives upgrade materials which delves give in pitiful amounts.
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Literally nobody said this, ever, besides raiding diehards looking for a straw man to cling to. Progression of your character is the driving force of MMO longevity - it’s why solo players clamored for something like delves in the first place.
look it up unless you can post me a hotfix that changed it 4-6 gives champion track gear 7 gives 610 hero 8 gives 616 hero
Thats false. 7 rewards heroic end of dungeon gear, but 3s will reward hero great vault.
M+ is kinda toxic and when you have a solo option for same loot, i dont see why your complaining
I’m having more fun raiding and gathering mats to craft my gear for cheap. Also PVP is funny, it’s actually entertaining. Entertaining is not the word I would use for keys right now or dungeons in general.
Maze+ is really old, lame, surgical garbo now. They took too long to remove affixes and they also messed up squishing the key numbers, now you can’t even get into a +2.
Also the dungeons are irritating. GG.
Delves give heroic track gear.
The previous complaint was M+ giving heroic track gear, too, making that a requirement as well.
And so your assertion is that something that gives progression rewards, hey, just don’t do it! progress SLOWER. It’s not ReQuIrEd!
That’s your argument for how the progression doesn’t “require” anything. Why, you could just only do raiding at a lower ilvl obviously!
look at the original comment I replied to they were talking about delves not m+
Everything is subjective and one does not stop you from playing the other. They are both options. At the end of the day what are you doing with all that gear? Playing delves until reset? Also , mythic plus difficulty comes mostly from people not doing mechanics or too high level keys. More options is a good thing
nowhere near the same time, wut?
I plow through 8 d8s in like an hour and a half.