Mythic+ Is The WORST Choice Now

They give you ONE piece of 616 gear for a WEEK.

You are acting as if you can farm 616 pieces endlessly at a rate of 1 per hour. This is a disingenuous argument and not worth even responding to.

Ironically M+ is where you can endlessly farm 613 pieces. That’s the funniest part about this to me.

M+ers feeling threatened by a single 616 piece weekly will never not be funny.

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but it dont.

+8 delves give 603 gear for 10-20mins ONLY IF YOU HAVE A KEY and you can only get 4 per week. if you run 8x you will get the choice of a single 616 item from vault.

with m+ you can spam +7’s until the cows come home and get endless amounts of TARGETED (with a little rng luck) HEROIC loot, with no need for keys and then more heroic loot in the vault.

there is no difference between a +8 delve and a +5-+7 mythic+. they are both equally easy. except the +5+7 gives endless amounts of loot as much as you can run it, whereas a +8 delve will only give you 4x champion pieces per week.

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You only need to do two tier 8 delves to get one 616 option. The only correction I have for you here.

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what you said is called a strawman: you invented an argument nobody has and won it all by yourself. congratulations.

my point is that a delve should NEVER give heroic raid loot.

somehow your argument is that pushing a 7 key in M+ for heroic track loot is equivalent? That’s a laugh as only 10% of all runs of M+ have been at 7

and, the easiest way to farm M7 is to have saturation in heroic raid gear in the first place.

running 2 delves in green pvp gear giving you 616 loot is hilarious, also you can do 3 more via maps if you run enough delves to obtain them (nobody is because doing that level of grind pulls delves loot/hr rewards closer to just doing a raid/m+)

in 16 weeks with good rng any character can be fully heroic gear saturated by doing a solo activity, 16 hours of playtime.

you’re not getting that in 16 hours of m+ running

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I would but the game is massively incentivized to bore me to death.

Who evers bonus is tied to Delve engagement is going to get a big check for boring the player base out of the game.

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What you said is a flat out lie.

“A 616 piece for 1 hour of solo play” is just a lie, period, end of story. It’s a SINGLE 616 piece for a week of patience.

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you’re so incorrect it’s painful. 2 delve8 = 1 616 item in the vault. 8 delve 8 gives you a choice of 3 616s.

full normal raid clear which takes far more time doesn’t even break 600 in the vault.

One choice. One piece. Having three options simply reduces your chances of having a repeat item.

A full normal raid clear is easier than a T8 delve (even solo) it just takes more time.

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no they are correct.

How is it a lie? If anything it’s adding time: 2 delves at 30 mins each = 1 616 item in the vault.

I have 5 alts that I don’t feel like playing slowly getting heroic raid ilvl via running 2 delves a week in green pvp gear.

“a week of patience” lol ok. explain WHAT OTHER WAY i could get 616 gear with this little time effort. There is none

that is exactly what i said. if you run 8x delves you will get to choose a single piece of 616 gear.

that because normal raid is easier than a +8 delve or +5 and up m+. imo. i pugged normal raid with maybe 5-10 wipes total in this 1st week.

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Tough luck, because people are loving it and it’s boosting player numbers and player retention numbers. There’s constantly highly upvoted threads on the WoW subreddit about people loving the delve system, how they can gear progress on it, and don’t feel forced to do M+ or raid anymore.

Here’s a recent one right here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1fmfblw/i_know_its_been_said_but_delves_have_been_a/

Deal with it

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Play as you’d like. Let people have alternative pathing to gear. Eventually, you’ll get better gear through mythic+, and you essentially have a near infinite supply because delves only reward great gear through the vault.

Using the keys are limited in supply, otherwise you’re capped at what, 554?

The maps are rare. I’ve done 20 delves and only seen one map.

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This person is just a liar. They are misrepresenting what delves provide as rewards at every opportunity to inflate the impact they have.

What they need to do is just strap in and run mythics instead of crying about delve rewards.

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i know it’s what you said, it’s wrong? 8x means 8 times.

running 8 tier8 delves gives you THREE 616 choices.

Maybe a language issue here, if you think that’s what you’re saying.

It gives you one choice from three options.

Which means theyre not more rewarding haha

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More rewarding in what way? Weaker trinkets, much lower cap, crests

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Do a +7/8 Mythic get unlimited heroic raid loot, but DELVES ARE MORE REWARDING somehow… I can’t man.

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In absolutely no way :stuck_out_tongue:

But M+ers are going to cry about everything that provides rewards outside of M+.

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