Mythic+ has probably damaged WoW worse than anything ever added

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Theyre not mutually exclusive lol

Talk about bad faith arguments

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heh
i see whats going on here

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Portals let me be elsewhere and not need to stand in Valdraken to use a FP. I can be in ED doing my own thing and be at the dungeon before the summoning channeling is done

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Favorite part is that its so easy and welfare that the OP has no noticeable achievements from it

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I don’t understand your argument.

A leads to B leads to C leads to D. A implies D doesn’t make sense unless we understand and C’s relationships with A and D.

You’re still missing some links in that chain for a coherent argument, in my opinion. Making M+ harder will result in less busywork before raids / overall time commitment each week / reduced ilvl inflation how?

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And you’re right to say that.

But what I’m saying is also true. If you don’t have a portal to
prrreeetttyyy much anywhere in Azeroth, you can get there in about a minute. MAYBE two.

That’s not exactly some great “time saver.” Not when it’s on an EIGHT HOUR cd. lol

Reduce the cd to 10mins
 and I’ll be ready to agree more about their usefulness. With how it is now? They’re just bragging rights.

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Yeah current expansion dungeons portals aren’t that useful, but when Halls of Valor pops, I’m happy I have portal. And now they’ll be account wide in TWW.

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I pvp to pvp

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Not sure the best path forward, but difficulty to reward ratios between raiding and keys have been way out of wack for a long time, and only got worse since DF season 2.

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They reset once a key starts. Or you finish the dungeon. I forget. Back you can use them back to back essentially

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Then people m+ to m+. :exploding_head:

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i sometimes use my HoA portal when my wormhole is on cd lol

any completed m+ run resets them im p sure

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Omfg
 i’m doing ember court stuff these days for meta achievement and I totally blanked on the fact that I have Sanguine Depths teleport
 what a bungle.

And I’ll definitely forget I have it next time I go there.

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Yeah but
 I almost never use them to get to a dungeon to RUN the dungeon. ROFL!!! That’s what the Summoning Stone is for. lololol

I use them as a way to get around the world. Shortcuts.

“Press 1 for summons”
“NO NEED! I HAVE MY OWN!!!”


 you didn’t even need it. They were going to summon you anyway. lol

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i’d just invest in the wormhole if you have a spot for engi

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I dont think so honestly.

M+ is easier with a full group of good players. But the run is significantly harder with 1 carry person.

Raids you can lose 20% of your roster and still finish the encounter just fine.

Raids you can screw up more and still achieve a win

Put more mechanics in that involve more personal responsibility on the players that do not wipe the entire raid, and then id agree

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Yeah-- this is EXACTLY the use I’m talking about.

And, to my point, it saves ABOUT 2 minutes.

Is it REALLY that big a deal?? lol

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Nah my main achievement hunter (this paladin) has been mining/blacksmith since its creation, and I don’t intend on changing it.

(Except for the fact that I changed it briefly for Fyr’alath, but I changed back)

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Well thats a you thing. No need to worry about 2x people needed to summon when you can all portal there in 5 seconds from the group forming.

Ups and downs, ebbs and flows

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Seems like a personal opinion, but I love m+. It’s my prefered game mode. To each their own I guess.