they don’t know how much coordination actually goes into letting that fire mage shine. They just see fire mages as being crazy good so therefore, they want their mages to be fire.
then they proceed to pull one pack at a time when combust is off CD.
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False. Someone had to care about the timer. Next?
Why do you need a rogue for TD?
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My shammy is being geared and I haven’t had a problem like this yet. Planning on pushing a key today, just hit 430 ilevel.
Im gonna second that one, most serious key pushers i know in the rare times they pug in anyone are pretty relaxed and chill, its the tryhards who live and breath the MDI that are the issue.
To the OP: Mythic+ is a fairly fun system, but it IS a issue of community gatekeeping right now, the best advice i can say is keep trying to make your own key runs, not everyone is psychotic like that.
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Get your raider io up and pugs will trust you regardless of class.
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Not always, i got denied to a +3 last season when i was doing Mythic+ on my preist… some people really are just that wtf’ish
But it also isn’t the most commen thing
There are those that deserve to be in High level keys, because they are good players.
And there are those act like complete jerks thinking they are high level players when they are not. These players are where this damage comes from.
Sadly when you attack those players the high level players feel attacked as well and back them up. Sadly we can not resolve the issue until a proper distinction can be made between the 2 types so they do not overwhelm the people complaining about the bad type of wanna be elites.
I’d love it if we could queue for Mythic dungeons and normal raiding. Right now I refuse to do any of that because people are just jerks.
How? Make it a linear, non-skippable and static single target borefest?
The whole point of M+ is to have a system where better performers have better rewards. One can debate whether a timer is the most appropriate way to measure this but it is a new route of gear progression that isn’t going away in Shadowlands. Much like every other end-game progression route, there will be “meta” for it.
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3s are a joke… should just run your own.
There are definitely some outliers, but it doesn’t seem as bell curve as possible. There are 40k shaman listed here. Shaman is also a low-pop class, compared to classes like, hunter, which has ~75k (in this bracket).
Interestingly, one of the highest completed keys this season has an enhancement on it
if random queued groups can’t kill N’zoth in lfr, why do you think they’d be any more successful in normal?
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I never would have thought of that!
Or i was stating it as a personal experience of yeah, there are those weirdos out there…
I agree with the other classes but not these. These are actually pretty good specs.
Last season I pushed all 22s and highier wwith a restonshanan.
There is a warlock hunter team almost 5k io.
There is a enchants ahaman timing 24s.
BM hunters are so meta it’s ok every spec of each class isn’t meta in m+ marksman is ok too.
My friend pushes with a warlock they are 3700 io.
Last season top team had a ele shaman in it they were timings 25s. 12 sec kick and earthquake and earth Ele is OP
Just git gud or reroll. Stop complaining.
Oh there is also a alliance disc priest that’s like 4590 io
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It’s not the streamers fault don’t blame them. Either A: blame yourself for not getting good enough to prove them wrong, or B: blame the class balance team. My friend is a disc priest and he has a very high raider io.
Or C: what people have been saying since mythic+ came out, don’t pug them. There are hundreds of mythic+ communities/discord’s/guilds that will be more then happy you have you join their ranks.
It’s not always the class in most cases, a lot of the time it’s the player.
There would be gatekeeping for higher ilevel in place.
I really do love Mythic. I run a few each week across three toons. Even with Raiderio, you can’t weed out personalities. I heal on my Paladin and Monk, dps on my DK. I’ve tanked, healed and dps M+ on my Pally many of times. (Nothing over +7 though.)
I healed a +4 WM the other night, labeled the group as a chill run. Once inside the dungeon, the tank starts to degrade and ridicule the Lock Dps, I speak up and the tank attempted to slight my HPS. My response was that, I will not be taking any advice from a tank wearing 380 blue trinkets trying to tank a +4. The tanks IO score was great, but what a complete ego driven imbecile.
No one wants to experience that. FoTM specs have always existed and always will. I personally do not care what spec joins my group, if you’re competent and know the basics, we can get through it. People will push keys and want absurd ilvl/spec to get the easiest run possible. I get declined 100x more on my 445 DK than my healers (for obvious reasons) but I don’t let it kill my play, because I enjoy my DK.
Anything community ran, will have the unfortunate problem of well, people. The RL may want ranged more than melee, or a certain spec for an ability, etc. Anything that will help smooth the dungeon run out. You’ll always have people trying to flaunt their inflated epeen on video games, but the best you can do is move on.
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Agreed. Perception doesn’t equal possibility. I’m blown away by this disc priest healing three world’s best dungeons.
This is Disc, not Druid. Not HPal.