Mythic+ culture is extremely toxic. Here’s why

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I disagreed with this hot take until I started playing non meta classes with my alts. And I’m making this post because I really don’t want to have to deal with the same thing in Shadowlands.

Let’s look at the non “meta” classes for healers: both specs of priest, and resto shaman.

The non “meta” classes for DPS: All specs of warlocks, shadow priest, both DPS specs of shaman, balance and feral druids, arcane mage, surv/marks hunter. I’m sure there are many more but those are my personal experiences.

The amount of toxicity I’ve faced when trying to play a non meta class for low level keys is actually ridiculous. People want to recreate the MDI setting for their +2, +5, +10, +15 and it’s so dumb.

Now before some demon hunter or resto druid comes in and says “just make your own key!” Well I do. And then they come in and see their healer is a shaman and leave. I’m sure a lot of people that play non meta classes can relate, the pug life is just not enjoyable.

Or I’ll join a key, get declined, ask why I get declined, and I get me with “lmfao reroll your class.”

Mythic+ by itself isn’t toxic. But the MDI and most key pushers are, and this contributes to a trickle down effect where people that just want to get their weekly key in can’t even play the game.

Of course, some of the fault lies with whoever balances this game too, letting resto druids reign supreme for 4 years straight is just disgusting. Glimmerdins and their scaling are just broken. Some dungeons like Tol’dagor actually encourage you to save a spot for a rogue. When they said they were building BfA dungeons with mythic+ in mind, is this what they meant?

We have popular streamers pushing the narrative that priest healers suck and that they should just reroll and go hpal. This DOES have an effect. Most people are sheep. It all contributes to the toxicity.

Make dungeons fun again in Shadowlands.

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TL;DR I get denied, don’t wanna make my own key and raid is, so obviously, I want blizz to change things because these meanies want to play a different way than I do.

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M+ is seriously the only reason I played this long. Fun system.

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I really don’t want to have to deal with the same thing in Shadowlands.

I have some bad news for you :frowning:

Gotta find a guild or some friends broski

There’s nothing Blizz can do about players gatekeeping the community.

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Neither myself nor my friends who play classes like Resto shaman pretty much religiously have ever had this problem and they do mythic keys often. Of course each player has their own experience but nope, cannot relate here

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Your mistake is basing the Mythic+ community by the low M+ keys. That’s where most of the gate-keeping is happening because people are, as you said, trying to recreate the MDI setting, but that’s more so people not understanding how/why MDI players do things. Those people in low M+ are the absolute try-hards and not representative of the Mythic+ community at large.

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As a shaman that has run in both enhance, resto, and ele…

I have come up against exactly 0 times someone has been “toxic” because of my class. Ever. In BFA.

I am genuinely curious how people are able to regularly find this toxic side of WoW. Constantly.

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as someone who pushed to 3k as a non meta class, the best advice I have is to stop pugging.

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Pugging is a nightmare, for sure.

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I get instant invites when I play my Rogue. Has a lot to do with my type of DPS more than the class. Sometimes you just don’t get invites because you’re melee, or ranged. I don’t take denials personally.

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I do not believe this happens on a regular basis. At all.

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Imagine just advertising you didn’t read OP’s post before posting this lol

You were wrong OP it was a male human paladin this time.

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they already are. git gud?

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I love my resto shammy partner :frowning:. We fit super well together when I tank

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Fortunate, The amount of times I get declined as Soon as I say my Shaman is Enhance, or my Druid is Feral, I’d be rich if I got a $1 for everytime it happened

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Trying to remember the last time someone even asked if I was ele or enhance. I was to say December?

I farmed like 30 underots in a week in the 12-15 range as enhance after the weapon. Never got asked once then.

Enhance is better for m+ in some weeks than ele is based on affixes. If you don’t have a tank pulling big for ele, then enhance will almost always be better.

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Git gud at having fun? Wat?

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Yeah, some people could really stand to do that. Drink a cuppa, relax, smell the magnolias. Y’know, breathe. Exist.

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I play ret, M+ is fine.

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Yeah it’s rough out there for non-meta classes. Personally I just roll a class that can heal since most people will just take any decent healer. That or I make friends.

But what you say is totally true. When I see a non-resto druid, priest, shaman, mage, lock, and prot pally in que I just laugh. You’ll never see them in my groups, cause honestly the other classes just have an easier time doing m+.

It’s sad but it’s also true.