Call outs are against the ToS so I cannot say but it’s an evoker who “left” the thread when exposed. Oddly replying right after their main reinforcing everything they say multiple times.
Probably a second account. Like many do here.
You can go on WoWhead, or even open up the Dungeon Journal and compare the difficulty outputs to one another.
Normal → Heroic is a bigger jump than Heroic → Mythic.
Take AA for example: Overgrown Ancient
Normal
Health: 2.48 million
Tankbuster: 85k damage
Heroic
Health: 4.63 million
Tankbuster: 311k damage
Health increase: 86%
Damage increase: 265%
Mythic
Health: 7.08 million
Tankbuster: 938k damage
Health increase: 53% increase
Damage increase: 201%
Jump from Heroic to Mythic is less than the jump from Normal to Heroic.
Apparently I am? Who knew
many people reinforce what I say. Are they all my alts too??
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The real issue with M0 in its current form is the lock out. 1 run per dungeon per week to learn all the mechanics and get gear. After that your only choice is 2s which is a bit of a step up considering there is an affix and timer added.
They can adjust 0, 2 and 3s a bit so its less of a wall or just open M0 to be farmed like 2s can be.
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They’re very doable, they just require some persistence to learn the fights. Make sure you’re using your defensives.
What do you have to learn in Mythic that can’t be learned in Heroic?
actual mechanics.
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Everything? Some mechanics don’t do anything even if ignored in heroic. Some mechanics are never really seen because bosses die too fast. Trash is never learned because it can be mass pulled by even bad tanks without any real threat.
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They’re there in Heroic too. The ones that matter
This is Mythic dungeons for me as well so what’re you getting at?
It was no different before, M2-12+ never prepared you for what was to come.
We would routinely see players be like “It was not an issue before” when they done their first M15-18 and it was true, because it never was, low keys were so easy you could spam them with 5 DPS if you so wanted and still fumble your way through.
The only difference now is that M0 STARTS at the old M10 range, players don’t have low keys to spam and be carried through to get gear for nothing that further trivialises that entire thing.
Now instead of an M15 being the breaking point for many players, it’s now M0. And it would be the same in S3 if players skipped M2-9, think if a player just done M0 in S3, then moved onto M10 without doing any low keys, no crest or stone farming, no gear farming, just straight into an M10, it would be exactly the same as to what is happening now because players who only done low keys are simply not good enough.
Players don’t want to spam heroic until they are geared, not realising that heroic now is similar to M0 last season. You can spam heroics now and get up to 489 iLVL and go into M0, add in all the weekly stuff and you would easily be 500 iLVL.
Which in comparison is the equivalent of running M10 at 460 iLVL last season, which was absolutely fine. Players just want to start their M0 and M+ journey at 460-470 iLVL, they just don’t want to put in the effort and now there are no low level dungeons they can be carried through so here we are, complaints on the forums instead.
We told Blizzard this would happen, we told players this is not what they want, but here it is.
Just spam heroic dungeons, it’s the equivalent to M0 and so many of you wanted M0 on a queue, we now have it, but “It’s only heroic” so you all think it’s not good enough.
I swear Blizzard could make M0 as hard as last seasons normal dungeons and place it on a queue, some of you would be over the moon that you get an M0 queue without even realising it’s just a numbers game.
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No it’s not.
Shame you have to act like it is. For what tho? To troll or what?
Heroic dungeons are 100% the exact equivalent of how M0 was.
Dragonflight Season 4 Dungeon Changes Ahead (blizzard.com)
Blizzard even made an official post detailing how the dungeons have been changed, they just us officially that heroic now is the same as how M0 was, stop denying it, stop complaining and deal with it.
It’s been posted many times to them. I wouldn’t bother
Please stop, even in what you linked:
" * Mythic difficulty changes and mechanics will not be present in this difficulty. * "
Find another thread to troll in okay?
LMFAO. Comical.
Heroic
- The tuning and rewards of this difficulty are increasing to be equivalent to a baseline Mythic (Mythic 0) dungeon in the current system.
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What are you actually doing for these M0 to be considered “hard”.
You legit just press buttons and avoid things and it’s fine…
Reported for harrassment and trolling.
There ya go with another alt again. lol
Know the part where you avoid things? Yeah they don’t like that doing. Best they can do is avoid facts
If you say so.
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People asked for harder “end-game” dungeons and also requested a M+ like experience without a timer. The devs provided this, and now the same audience complains that even M0 is too hard, not even three weeks into the season.
What do you actually want? Just good loot from content that offers zero challenge? If so, where does that stop? So next, you want +2 to be easier, because it’s just the first key level? But why not make +5 trivial? (which arguably it already is three weeks in if you have 500+ item level). Why stop there, though? Why not make +8 so easy that you can do it without playing mechanics and you can get mythic track loot in your vault?
I think the system is fine.
The expectation to steamroll M0 dungeons as a casual player who doesn’t want to learn mechanics is not.
The only change I feel is necessary is to switch M0 dungeons to “end of dungeon” loot, like M+ , and make them spammable. The weekly lockout isn’t helping with learning mechanics in M+ as there are no rewards if you do them more than once per week.
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Knowledge is the best reward one can garner!
Yeah if I didn’t play this game at all either I would think it’s fine too.
You got like 3 feats of strength and 60 achievement points bro. Whose alt are you?