So you have 1-2 mechanics per boss extra to deal with and some how that makes it all of a sudden impossible to do? Just admit you are bad and get over it.
Thatâs not 100% the same as M0.
I am done here before I get a perma ban for the things I want to say to you people.
Good job trolling. Hope you feel good about it.
OMG so sorry, 99% the same.
So what you cannot press W to move away from one additional mechanic one a minute?
Actually I just realised how silly you are being, I noted heroic dungeons now are the same as M0 was in S3, which means in heroic, you actually have LESS mechanics to deal with.
I told ya how it would go.
Sorry it happened to you too.
Stop trolling people itâs not a good look.
You got like 3 feats of strength and 60 achievement points bro. Whose alt are you?
So youâre doing M0 and M+ on your classic character?
I play on EU servers. The EU subscription allows players to post on the NA forums, but it requires us to attach a NA starter edition to our BNet account and level a character to 10. The NA forums are much busier and more active than the EU forums, and you guys get more blue attention than we do over there.
Iâm just an average M+ enjoyer, not a pusher, so not a hardcore or elite player. I still think the system is fine and I am having fun. Here, Iâll show you mine, but I doubt youâll show me yours in return - but maybe youâll surprise me? https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/khazgoroth/life
Skill issue. People are 2-chesting M+2 with heroic dungeon gear.
I havenât switched characters in months lol
Itâs keeping players like you out of the pool, so thatâs a massive win.
(word that rhymes with kitty) take. Elitism turns games into Lost Ark. You dont want Lost Ark.
Noone cares what raids or keys you have done. Noone is inspecting you in awe. Its not 2004 anymore. If anything people should be hoping more people do keys to increase the pool, not be happy people dont try it because their raider dot io score is all they have going for themselves.
The heroic to M0 and M+ transition needs to be smoothed out. Maybe making the mechanics in heroic more prevalent or more important is the way to go. Right now these players are getting tossed in the deep end and expected to swim, and its frustrating people.
Iâd rather not accidentally group with someone who would rather give up than improve.
The heroic to M0 and M+ transition needs to be smoothed out.
New M0 is great to help people learn (assuming they actually want to). The problem with adding more numbers to heroic is that it has an auto-queue, and auto-queue content is not allowed to have a failure condition, or actually kill you.
I really like the changes. Itâs much easier to push Keystones to a reasonable level with out having to slog through PUGs. Itâs less punishing to lose a key level now as well since thereâs so few. I had a good time pushing Keystone Hero in week 1, and basically getting 3k by week 2. In the past it was harder since so many levels meant farming more keys to push slowly. I donât think I want to go back to how it was.
Yeah. I think the only real losers from the change are the people who refuse to improve, and if youâre going to decide to be one of those, you need to accept the consequences.
100% u be right, shoulda posted it in CAPSLOCK
Everything was shifted to give people what theyâve asked for, for years and they are mad⊠amazing.
You can spam heroics now and get up to 489 iLVL and go into M0, add in all the weekly stuff and you would easily be 500 iLVL.
As has been pointed out in this thread many timesâŠit is literally impossible to spam heroics and get to 489 in a reasonable time period. The crest cap prevents it.
And the lack of gearing opportunity between heroic and M0 is one of the primary complaints being made.
In the old system you could farm from heroics to M20 (or higher) without doing anything else because the tuning and incremental loot system supported it. That is now lost.
you need to accept the consequences.
Players are accepting the consequences by not participating in Mythics.
Next it will be Blizzâs turn to accept the concequences of excluding a large portion of their player base from their most popular end game systemâŠa change which provides little benefit to them or anyone else.
Noone cares what raids or keys you have done. Noone is inspecting you
I do; I want to see the skill of people I am inviting to my groups so I know I wonât be wasting my time.
The heroic to M0 and M+ transition needs to be smoothed out.
If it was anymore âsmoothed outâ then itâd be a flat line⊠Go back to the queued content where the only qualifications you need to meet is Blizzardâs minimum item level since thatâs all you dare to achieve.
no it is not âliterally impossibleâ to spam heroics
i have done it on 3 characters now after doing normal dungeons, heroics, and then now im doing m0âs on my hunter
heroic literally has IL just below m0 and there is no gap
They did good with this changes
heroic literally has IL just below m0 and there is no gap
Sure, as long as you ignore the hundreds (thousands?) of posts saying there is, then you win.
I would argue that 480 (the highest ilvl you can reasonably achieve from farming heroics) is not high enough for M0s.
Just try again that was the entire point of it and another thing mythic 0âs are no way equivalent in difficulty to old 10âs.
You have no timer, no affixes and generally speaking only really the bosses are a threat.
You also get heroic vault from it and normal raiding gear.
In all honesty if nothing else these changes just highlight how much of an update raiding needs.
thats their fault for not completely gearing their characters out with heroic level gear, not the games
Dragonflight M0s were insanely easy and the Heroics could be done week 1 blindfolded by a team of five orangutan
As an orangutan, I agree. My rogue skipped Heroics at df launch; instead I started running M0s the moment I hit level cap while still wearing my shadowlands gear from m+/raid at like 300 ilvl? Despite M0s dropping 370 something.