My review after 100+ hours in TWW

I think it’s great that they’re ok with the increased diversity in the game. What are you implying that we should be outraged about?

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Im sorry is she NOT black? Lets also think about the fact that Blizzard purposefully made her Black? Are they in some way also racist for FOCUSING on her being black? Shut up and stop race baiting. He was simply preparing for the obvious backlash from people like YOU that are hyper racial.

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I have nothing against men, but there are thousands of strong male lead stories and characters throughout sci-fi and fantasy, including in WoW, but heaven forbid the focus get put on a female character because that political and an agenda…

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Please chill out. That is not what they said, you are just pulling it out of nowhere to virtue signal and argue over something else entirely.

I agree with the OP that Faerin’s character seems too perfect with very little build-up to it, but that’s a symptom of the story campaign being too short IMHO. We should’ve gotten at least another questline focused on getting to know a few of the main characters in TWW.

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I’ve said it upfront due previous controversy, ive said i have NO problem with that and that i think its cool… thats not enough?

“Forced” diversity in a fantasy game with very loose rules isn’t a problem though. Only a certain crowd makes it a problem.

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I’m not talking about WoW specifically here.

People are obviously upset about this NPC. Who isn’t even yet a major lore character. I wonder why.

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Rofl ok /thread

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You see it’s political because woman. :+1:

no but seriously it’s so weird to call it a political agenda because the writers just wanted to do women this time around

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Me personally im having fun with it. I was a bit let down with a misunderstanding I had. I had understood that we would be able to run solo dungeons / delves with our own alts as a 5 man dungeon 1 player controlled 4 npc.

I’ve said the problem is the discrepancy, not women.

My argument is;
“We can have Grommash, Arthas, Jaina and Tyrande at same time”
Your argument is basically :
“look tyrande and jaina in warcraft 3, therefore TWW 90% female is ok”

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You are basing you entire 100 hour review (which is a pitiful length of time, i had 100 hours before EA ended) on the initial patch of the game and how you think the story is going to proceed. Will it be feamle focused? Probably because Xalatath is a woman and Alleria is a woman and they 2 of them are the central focus of this Expac, however we are only starting to see how its going to roll out with Anduin rediscovering his faith, Khadgar returning, Magni and Dagran increasing importance and little teases of Thrall. As I said, its shortsighted and naïve of you.

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Not the OP, but that is allegedly a common complaint about the Faerin. Way to try and misconstrue what OP was saying and try and turn it into a political narrative like the exact accusation you are making. It is irrelevant to if she is a good character or not, and that was OP’s point. Overall, Faerin has room to be critiqued for sure (for me, it is her being part of the Lothar line because that is a significant retcon). Not the worst character (I have many more gripes with Anduin personally) but far from great. They could have done a lot more to make her have a strong personality and really play into the scars, but she leans into the Mary Sue trope too hard.

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Are you being for real? Gaslight more lmao. This is criticism of the story not the skin color of Faerin. Faerin as a character just sucks, it has nothing to do with her being black. She’s literally typical “strong woman” mary sue. And honestly it’s very annoying listening to her and many of the other NPC’s talk. The main campaign 70-80 all i saw was female characters degrading the remnants of male ones in dominant positions, then those female ones being promoted into positions of power and being congratulated for being so strong and thoughtless.

Like… This is clearly self inserts. Honestly, everything else about this expansion EXCEPT the story in my opinion has been pretty good, just get writers who don’t have brain rot from years of twitter politics.

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lol some militants are just abusing forum system and flagging my post for no reason :pinched_fingers:

This is just honesty not meant to be aggressive sounding but I think a review of an expansion that doesn’t officially start season 1 until next week is weird.

I don’t get the constant disdain for writing people hate in this game. It’s fine, some parts of the campaign story I dare say were even good. This is in context of video game story. I don’t need people with the “you don’t know good writing” bs- save it. I enjoy reading a great deal as a past time when I can. Quality fantasy writing is Tolkien to me and even most of the dragon lance books by Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis if I didn’t foul up their names. Point is I know good fantasy writing.

I also know games aren’t known (in general - not just wow) for fine literary works.

Truth is as DM I’ve discovered if you weave a story with even some complexity in it - half the players won’t get it and be like “huh”?

I’ve seen it time and again over 30 odd years running TTRPGS , so with that much experience in how players and story go I’m definitely cynical of people complaining of simple or bad writing for video games. If the dev team added complexity chances are people would cry about that .

But anyway. It’s a very good start for a wow expansion in my mind but not gonna review it - that be in about 18 months.

For good or bad btw - maybe then I’ll dump on it because they fumble patches between now and then.

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Professor Jonathan Haidt wrote a book on this topic. It is an interesting read.

You are perceiving the story through your own lens.

She is a minor lore character. Why so upset?