its unfair because instead of grouping with 4 other real people they pay for 4 other accounts and just automate them
And all 5 would be potentially valuable level 60 mains.
I doubt the multiboxxers I see running around as 3 mages really care about having 3 level 60 mages. They care about one of those mages, and the other 2 they’re just using to fuel that one.
A group of 5 friends requires agreement. They have to agree when to play together. If one decides he doesn’t like his class at 35 and wants to reroll, that throws a wrench in the works, or a couple decide to keep playing after the others are offline and outlevels the rest of the group. Happens all the time.
A multiboxer doesn’t have to worry about any of that. All of his characters will always be doing the exact same thing at the exact same time and won’t outlevel the other. He doesn’t have to deal with one of his characters wanting to reroll, because he is all his characters.
And whether or not you think grouping is necessary to level is irrelevant and rather hypocritical seeing as you’re so quick at defending players playing in a rather controversial way but belittle the individual players who enjoy experiencing the game with friends. Imagine that.
Honestly, you’re just trolling at this point.
Automation is not allowed in any MMORPG today not just World of Warcraft.
Whether there are 4 other real people as you stated or not they are all paid for. Same amount.
and as such, multiboxing should not be allowed.
ignoring the fact that the accounts are not real people is what makes your argument logically inconsistent. choosing to ignore the fact that a player paying for 4 more accounts constitutes a gain in power over another player is why we have been arguing for so long. you clearly dont want to debate the issue but rather impose your opinion on everyone, which is fine, i came here to argue facts and logic.
That’s incorrect. Multiboxers all view their characters as mains unless they have alts on their accounts as different classes just like anyone does.
A multiboxer must decide which classes to play on a particular day if the multiboxer has alts. A decision made by the multiboxer must be done to determine which classes to even begin with. The multiboxer must decide what he’s going to go after, PvP or PvE. Which classes to decide and whether or not crowd control…
We can go on and on about the differences between what a group does and what a multiboxer does in the comparison between groups and players. Now we’re past the point of discussion of the multiboxers versus 1 player playing one account. This is what we should be discussing. Exactly what you wrote. However you are incorrect in many areas especially concerning leveling as a multiboxer. The multiboxer doesn’t always do the exact same thing at the exact same time. Nor do they stay the same level. That’s extremely rare. For one thing, they would have to be the exact same class, never die and always turn in all quests and not skip anything.
If you’re arguing rerolling then you have an issue with how your communications to the group went. That should have been established at the beginnning.
Belittle? No I was wondering why you were talking about leveling when the game gives you the choice of a group or not. That’s why it caught me off guard.
So the point you’re making about ‘agreement’ versus the multiboxer doesn’t hold up because of how the leveling process with a multiboxer works. Multiboxers some times get wiped, especially on a pvp server. They level much slower and it takes a lot longer process to gear them than individual players. Why? Because they have to gear all of the characters not just one. They have to maintain the characters and get them repaired, set up their bank, make bags or buy them etc. All of that takes a lot more time than one person doing that with one character.
this is a matter of opinion
NEWS FLASH: Multiboxers don’t use automation. 
You might want to look up keyboard and mouse broadcasting.
A group of 5 players constitutes a gain in power over another player. Your argument doesn’t hold up. You’re asking that groups be banned from the game?
It was in response to this statement: “They care about one of those mages,”
So that was opinion in response to an opinion.
why would i ask that groups be banned from the game? 5 players playing 5 characters is NOT the same as 1 player playing 5 characters. 1 player with access to 5 blizzards is a more powerful player than 1 player with access to 1 blizzard. you still refuse to acknowledge the point that i made that a 5 player group is not equivalent in the matter of fairness to 1 player playing 5 characters
Because you stated something that constitutes a gain in power over another player is an issue. Howerver a group of 5 players constitutes a gain in power as well.
FINALLY!!!
We finally arrive to understanding your issue with multiboxers!! And now you’re making a valid comparison as well!
So let’s review, we’ve discussed Pay-To-Win and found that there is no difference in terms of the amount paid regardless of multiboxing or not compared to a full group of players.
We’ve discussed PvP in that 5 players has an advantage over 1 person just like a multiboxer would have an advantage as well.
Now we’re onto discussing that 5 players playing 5 characters NOT the same as 1 player playing 5 characters. Now we’re onto discussing the play style of the multiboxer and comparing a 5 account multiboxer to 5 people playing separate characters.
So you want to state that it’s unfair that a 5 account multiboxer forms a group faster and easier than 5 players do? And then what? To do what? What comes after that? Just forming a group would be the same in regards to the end of your point. Your argument is that 5 people take longer time than the multiboxer does to form the group. But why is that important if there isn’t anything else to be done afterwards? In other words, let’s say your point is that 5 people take 15 minutes to form the group and a multiboxer joins the game hits his macro to join the group and does it in seconds. Ok, now what? They all log out and done for the day? That’s your point? What’s after that? What do the groups do that makes it ‘unfair’ in your mind.
I never said that? WTF are you talking about?
Translation: “I’m out of arguments.”
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I not really sure what you are on about, but you can do the same thing by having your alts feed your tailor. I’ve done that since the beginning. I’ve always had alts with different gathering and other professions and all your alts will get cloth as they quest.
Multiboxers pay for things no one can get for free.
What are you talking about? The only thing a multi-boxer is paying for are extra accounts. Are you saying that shouldn’t be allowed? It is true for every extra account you have to pay, but so what. Boxers get things the same way everyone else does, by paying for the game, paying for a subscription(s), and playing the game.
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I fail to see any practical point to having multiple capped characters of the same class that you gear up individually.
More chances at things like the ZG mount? It can’t just be for multiple chances at gear, because why would you bother getting more loot that ends up spread across multiple characters instead of just focusing on the one? How would you even get a guild to distribute loot to one person playing multiple characters in a raid? Just pretend to be multiple people? That sounds like a whole other can of worms.
And I’m not even mentioning farming because if that’s all you want it for you don’t need amazing gear just for that, so the need to really gear up multiple mages or hunters or whatever you have is moot in regards to that. Same with professions. Hell, if more professions is all you want you can get away with leaving them at 35 for the most part.
I just see no practical purpose to it, at least not in the context of it all being the same class, and most multiboxers I’ve come across are rolling as a “group” of 2-3 mages. If they were leveling different classes simultaneously to have access to them, that would at least make more sense to me, but the vast majority of multiboxers I come across is just a dude playing some mages, so of course I’m going to think one of them is the main and the rest are going to end up being bank/profession alts, which would also at least be something, but your claim that they all need to get geared leaves me scratching my head in regards to that as well.
pay more money than other players to gain an advantage over other players that would not be possible unless they also multiboxed or formed a group.
I think youre confusing the term with botters.
they kill mobs faster, farm gold more efficiently, and have greater survivability in the world and in instances.
not to mention the game is player versus player, not however many characters you are willing to pay for versus however many characters another dude is willing to pay for.
The question was “What do the groups do that makes it ‘unfair’ in your mind.” This is in regards to both the multiboxed group and non-multiboxed grouped that took longer to form. Specifically what comes after the group is formed.
And your answer is in regards to the multiboxer compared to one person playing one account again. Which doesn’t make sense. Your argument earlier was that a multiboxer doesn’t have to socialize can just form his group and go. But the full group has to socialize and work towards getting a group together. But your answer applies to one person playing one account which doesn’t apply to the question. The question is in regards to the group compared to a multiboxer not one person playing one account.
Or I can pay more money each month and have a warrior and a priest farm cloth. That would make farming easier. Easier than leveling an alt to do the farming for me. It would make everything in the game easier. It would make questing easier. By multiboxing I can buy an easier game. That’s why it’s a pay to win strategy.
i answered it by saying that groups farm more efficiently, kill mobs faster, and have higher survivability in dungeons and open world
These are incorrect when you compare to a full group of players. The full group of players clears a dungeon faster, farms gold more efficiently, and has greater survivability in the world and in instances than a multiboxer does.
The game is player versus player (PvP) which allows players to battle each other in battlegrounds or in the open world. A larger size raid such as one brought to the battle by a live streamer would be paying more than a five account multiboxer would. So your argument doesn’t make sense. You’re once again making the wrong comparisons.