youre not comparing apples to apples. youre hiding behind the same argument every multiboxer hides behind which is “DUR ITS ABOUT CHARACTERS NOT PLAYERS” which is a logical fallacy in of itself due to players being the ones that play the game and not characters
The multiboxer must log in just as other players do, they also must launch the game on one or more computers. The multiboxer signs in and waits to enter the game world just as other players do. The multiboxer forms the group usually like others do but sometimes they might have an in-game macro to join the groups.
We’ve already gone through the discussion of group coordination versus how a multiboxer goes through the game after logging in. You didn’t comment on it. You didn’t even mention what happens next. Does the multiboxer and group you’re comparing to go to a dungeon? Do they go to a PvP event? Do they go to a raid? What is it that happens next after the group is formed. In my description I covered what happens when the multiboxer goes to a dungeon and compared that to players grouped. You made no attempt to acknowledge that discussion point. Now you’re back to the same argument again without acknowledging it was already covered. Please go back and review. It’s all there in all of the details.
You have that backwards, mate. Comparing the way you are is the apples to oranges comparison.
No, I wouldn’t, because it doesn’t make any sense to compare a single human being playing multiple characters to actual individual people playing the same number of characters.
The issue isn’t the number of in-game characters, it’s the number of actual human beings playing the game that matters.
So one person logging in with multiple characters individually with each one requiring it’s own server slot would have no consequence to the overall number of individual human players that are able to log in and play…
Got it, chief
I’m not sure where you got your information from. I didn’t make that statement about characters not players. You’re the one that keeps wanting to keep to 1 player discussion. Remember we went all through the 5 versus 1 just for you to understand that’s still an advantage with the 5 over the 1.
I’d prefer moving on to the next topic and keep with that topic which comes naturally in this discussion which is a multiboxer compared to a full group of players. Yet we went over the 5 v 1 all for you to try to comes to the understanding about ‘advantage’
yeah and the details prove you to be avoiding any counterargument against you so that you can continue on with your logically inconsistent idea that multiboxing is fair to players that dont multibox. thats what this whole thread is about. ive repeatedly proven you wrong time and time again using facts that you choose to not acknowledge as facts or simply avoid altogether. its your own fault you have decided to take the incorrect stance and i hope one day you accept reality
I’ll state it again: Multiboxing is not fair to one person playing one account just like a full group of players not multiboxing is not fair to one person playing one account. There is no difference when it involves unfairness. The one person is still outnumbered in terms of PvE or PvP.
Please explain how? When you compare a multiboxer to one person playing one account, you’re making an apples to oranges comparison. The reason is because a full group also has an unfair advantage over the one person playing one account. So it doesn’t make sense to compare a multiboxer to one person playing one account because the multiboxer still has an advantage just like the group does. So it makes more sense to compare apples to apples - in other words a multiboxer to a full group or a matched number. Once you understand that the multiboxer comparison to 1 person playing one account doesn’t apply and is an invalid comparison because a group still has an advantage over the 1 person playing one account then we can move on. But you still want to compare apples to oranges and compare the multiboxer to 1 person playing 1 account.
Why not? If we’ve already indicated that a full group of players not multiboxed still has an unfair advantage over one person playing one account then why would you still want to compare a multiboxer in that way to one player playing one account. It makes no sense.
except that to outnumber one player one player chooses to pay $60 more a month than another player
I’m sorry to inform you but you’ve not proven anything at all. Your arguments don’t make any sense. You were claiming that 5 people defeating 1 person was fair. It’s not and any time you have 5 times more than the other side it’s an unfair advantage not matter how you view it.
It’s $75 and one player playing 5 accounts isn’t any different in terms of the amount paid than 5 players all paying $75 total and defeating one player in PvP paying $15. Still not a valid comparison.
Because 5 people deciding to level together requires agreement. A multiboxer doing the same requires a credit card.
I’m not talking about dungeon content, because that content is designed with having a full group in mind anyway.
its literally pay to win. its a player paying more money to win.
5 people still would have leveled. Whether they were together or not. In fact they would have leveled much faster than the multiboxer would have. Quite a lot faster. So I don’t understand what point you are making in this regard. Once again you don’t state what your point is. Just because players level in a group is their option or not doesn’t really apply to this discussion.
So you’re not talking about dungeon content? You’re talking about joining a group to level? HAHAHA… LOL… ok that’s funny because the point of that is what exactly? To level you need to ask for someone to join with yet the game gives you the option to level by yourself also? It’s a choice? I’m not sure what point you’re making in regards to this.
lol You’re going backwards. 5 players paying the same as a multiboxer isn’t pay to win but a multiboxer paying the same as the 5 players is? How exactly is that? You’re making statements without any reason to explain how it is.
what more do i need to explain? 1 human being paying more money than another human being. its simple dude. just because sometimes one human being paying $75 a month goes against a group of human being paying $15 a month doesnt make it fair
Groups are unfair to single players playing one account that aren’t grouped. If they are multiboxed or not it’s still unfair. The full group still pays $75. It’s not pay-to-win because it’s the same amount the multiboxer paid as the full group did.
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logical fallacy. groups are inherently the way the game was meant to be played. if you think its unfair thats because by stating its unfair it gives your argument some reasonableness.
Exactly! A 5 account multiboxer fits right in line with the full group. It’s the way it was meant to be played just as you stated. If you think its unfair thats because by stating its unfair it gives your argument some reasonableness. The exact statement right back at ya! You believe it’s unfair only when a multiboxer forms a group. Otherwise it’s fair. That’s why your argument is invalid.
By the way a 40 account multiboxer also fits inline with the game design as a raid is 40.