Multiboxing = Cheating

I’m curious if the other games where multiboxing is allowed has threads like this on their forums :thinking:

If they do… they usually get shut down fast and a forum suspension for the OP.

Cheers!

Come Mr. Panza, we must ride forth and vanquish the evil windmills! I have brought sustenance in the form of many cookies along with some brownies and little sammiches.

:cookie:

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From what I seen, they don’t. The ones posted here are most likely from the botting community as they are getting hit hard by Blizzard. It’s a concerted smokescreen to hide their activities

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Your grace, señor Knight-errant, I hope your worship will not forget the same island which you have promised me, and which I warrant myself able to govern, let it be as great as it will.

:grin:

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I caught sight of three of the same player or something today leveling a Tauren. Their names were barely different yet looked exactly the same. Honestly, it was amusing seeing three Tauren cat druids moving to the same spot at the same time like a gang of triplets.

Looks like you all need a fresh supply.

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I found myself one :smiley:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/412216-There-s-a-Literal-Army-of-RMT-BOts-Doing-the-MSQ?p=5270756&highlight=multiboxing#post5270756

They even talk about wow over there like people talk about FF here lol

One thing to remember:
The owner of the game is the one who creates the rules, not the player.
If Blizzard, and many other MMO operators who allow it, says that “Mutli-Box is not Illegal Botting”, then it doesn’t matter what definition of the activity one may come up with to claim it is.
If one says, “Well, I say it’s botting so it must be banned” when the game operator says, “Nope”, then it makes no sense to keep on saying it… Express your displeasure and move on, or just vote with your credit card and take you business elsewhere.

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Best advice ever

I don’t box and haven’t even seen a multiboxer since WoD but man I do love me some multiboxer threads.

It’s a guilty pleasure.

/steals some of gallows popcorn

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(practically vibrates with glee)

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It is fun to watch these anti-boxers. Flailing around words they don’t understand; or vomiting out some lovely, classy statement to get themselves banned/suspended.

Rinse. Repeat. Or jump on alt until it gets the same. Kinda like a bot, huh? Strange mentality, almost like they don’t care what happens to their account.

Multiboxing isn’t against the ToS. But using third party software that send input to the game is.

But it is also not ilegal.

I know right, they are like little entitled children crying about something that has been accepted for the last 15 years yet they still carry on. On a side note I thoroughly enjoyed running 3 teams through today. Still haven’t figured out what to level up first…druids / pallys or a mage / lock / shammy / priest / druid combo. :wink:

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I couldn’t agree more.

Players use boxers as the boogyman who ruins their gameplay, even though we’re a very small minority of players. They get mad because they think we push them out of the AH and that they cannot price gouge players. They get mad because they think we ruin WPvP, even though they would die just as quickly if they were getting killed by a group of players. This worn out topic reminds me of when they separated twinks, both times, from non-twinks in random battlegrounds and players still screamed and cried about twinks, even though they weren’t even there.

I don’t know what I want to level first either :frowning: I suppose it doesn’t matter since I have to level it all. Maybe I should finish leveling on beta so I can see if there’s any problem areas that I could solve by having a certain comp.

Well… no.
Bot farmers use stolen accounts. When they get banned, they just grab another stolen account. Not only does Blizzard not make more money, it costs them time, money, and resources to recover those accounts and return them to the rightful owners.

Keep reaching, though. It’s good exercise.v

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I didn’t respond to you in a defensive manner at all. I responded because what you are saying is absolutely incorrect. They say it is not supported, that means they don’t offer any advice, help or any technical support in regards to third-party add-ons and software in regards to multi-boxing. Everything in this paragraph that I am saying to you is 100% fact. If you don’t believe me, then that’s a you problem, not mine.

It is a new playstyle for me, one I’ve never done before until close to half a year ago. Cheating implies that I’m doing something wrong and against the rules of the game. You telling me that it’s cheating doesn’t make it fact. Every single person that plays World of Warcraft is allowed to do the exact same thing, so it’s not gaining an unfair advantage when every single person in the entire world can do the exact same thing themselves.

Cheating would imply that I’m breaking the rules set forth by Blizzard. The fact remains is that I’m not. Once again, you’re entitled to your opinion, but you’re definitely wrong.

An advantage would imply that any other person that plays World of Warcraft is not allowed to do the same thing I am, but once again, that’s an absolute lie.

Multi-boxing is allowed, has been allowed for over 15 years. If someone chooses to not play in that fashion or they don’t like it, that is their prerogative.

You can keep spinning this as much as you want and keep telling me that it’s not allowed, once again, that is an absolute 100% outright lie.

It is in fact very much allowed.

You give me way too much credit if you think I have enough power to farm enough herbs and ores to completely manipulate the in-game economy to the point of what you are talking about.

The ones that are making the prices so cheap aren’t the multi-boxers that play a couple of hours here and there, it’s the people that farm gold 24 hours a day using software that plays the game for them when no one is at the computer.

Any action that I perform when I multibox is done by me, nothing is done automatically for me.

Anytime I pick an herb or an ore, I click alt+ESC and I manually click each action for each player that I control. I don’t use key replication or cloning to do any of my farming, it’s not against the rules to, I just prefer to do it the way I’m comfortable with.

Every single person that plays World of Warcraft has the same access to the same tools and the same things that I do. If they don’t have the time or the money, that’s not my problem.

Once again, you can call it whatever you want, I’m not breaking any rules and I’m not going to be bullied or harassed into stopping it just because you tell me to.

I don’t see anywhere in my previous post where I said anything like that. Once again, putting words into my mouth and saying absolute lies to serve your agenda and your point of view. You’re very passionate about this, that is absolutely your prerogative and your right to voice your opinions just like it is my right to defend myself when I’m being attacked verbally.

So now you’re resorting to insulting me by calling me dumb?

No, it’s called me working my butt off for over the last 20 years. Life happened to me and I can no longer work since summer of 2019. I have the time, I have the means and World of Warcraft gives me solace. Can’t you express your opinions without resorting to insults? You don’t know me, don’t sit there and act like that you’re better than me because I play differently than you.

When you start paying my bills, paying for my subscription fees, then maybe I’ll let you dictate how I’m allowed to play.

Once again, I’m playing within the rules and I’m playing a way that is enjoyable to me. I really don’t have to sit here and defend myself to this degree, but I refuse to let you verbally assault me without me saying my piece.

I won’t get banned because I’m not breaking any rules, where in my previous post did I say I would quit playing if I get banned? You love to make things up as you go along to serve your point of view.

Once again, more lies and you’re wrong again.

I don’t usually let posts get under my skin, but you know exactly what you’re doing.

You may have gotten under my skin a little bit, but that’s okay, I’m still going to go back to enjoying my life and being a happy person that I am. I can say this with the utmost sincerity straight from my heart, you sound like you are a really miserable person.

That is all.

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This… is actually a good point. Blizzard does not officially authorize multi-boxing. They don’t support it, but they haven’t outright forbidden it either. Because of that, any software that interacts with the WoW client to faciliate multi-boxing must be considered ‘unauthorized’ because to authorize the program, would effectively authorize multi-boxing.

Therefor under the anti-cheating agreement posted here: https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/cd5930c0-2784-420c-a23d-1e0d6ff8599b/anti-cheating-agreement

Multi-boxing software would be in violation. After all the agreement states the following:

Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., by and through itself and/or its affiliates (“Blizzard”), considers the use of ‘unauthorized third party programs’ for hacking, cheating, botting and/or changing or facilitating gameplay to be a gross and serious violation of the Battle.net End User License Agreement (‘EULA’). An ‘unauthorized’ third party program as used herein shall be defined as any third party software, code and/or method not expressly authorized by Blizzard, including without limitation, any ‘add-on’ or ‘mod’ that in Blizzard’s sole determination:

  1. Enables or facilitates cheating of any type, including botting and/or changing or facilitating gameplay

Multi-boxing would be considered facilitated gameplay, after all, it is not possible to multi-box effectively without that software.

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While it might not be against the EULA it certainly isn’t good for the health of the game.

I hope Blizz sees that someday.