Multiboxing = Cheating

Another botter joins the fray…

Ban them all :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

not a botter, i believe both should be banned. im bringing the argument to light to highlight the hypocrisy

To be fair, I am not a multi boxer and they are entirely different from a business point of view.

A multiboxer creates multiple accounts, all adds up to increasing Activisonblizzard share price.

Bitter only needs a few accounts to create raw gold.

Multi boxing to raw gold farm is way outdated, if they even did it in the first place. The current most lucrative multiboxing gold farming is to farm for BFA mounts that sell on AH for 20k a piece, which they normally get 2 or 3 per hour by party syncing one who has the questline for infinite mobs. That and quest item farming (hippogryph and bee mount) which also yields similar amounts. Raw gold farming does not even come close.

Botting for quest items takes very difficult pathing scripts, hence it is easier to just farm skins at respawn locations within balance druid’s spell range to just tab pull, dot, and periodically self heal. They then craft items to vendor for easy raw gold. This is very detrimental to the business as a whole as it devalues gold at an alarming rate if unchecked.

They are not the same. And this is why one is allowed, while the other is not.

Multi boxing software these days do not require a “host” to copy actions from. Instead, all actions are broadcasted to all clients on OS level, hence even if u kill the “leader” the rest continue to function as the keys are set and macroed individually. In fact you can even mbox a team of mixed classes as long as the key presses are in order for holy shields, schism and holy fire. Just set attacks , defensive CDs etc in the similar order which you remember and you can even set individual clients’ keys like b rez on a shift or ctrl mod so only one toon will act.

If you think that warden is looking at your toons as if it was a player, think again. It checks key presses, movements for repetitive patterns and flags suspicious activity accordingly. You do not need to hide a bot behind multiboxed toons because it does not matter to the AI at all.

If you did not understand this, please do not act as if you are smarter than the other folks in this thread. Not doubting the “self report” story, but not buying it either.

No you are not, you are spamming the same thing that has been posted for two months. It’s bait.

baited then

I like being right. Welcome to mute-ville.

if you want to think of it as bait, then go for it. i saw a multiboxer, came to the thread saw this post and contributed to it. beg my pardon for trying to build a conversation

Nah, you don’t get to dictate what is and isn’t cheating here. All you have is an opinion. Blizzard is the only one here who dictates what is and isn’t cheating in their game.

No, it’s really not and no it really doesn’t. You’re simply making stuff up to fit this narrative you’re trying to push. This thing about this narrative that everyone pushes is that it’s about jealousy. Stop worrying about how others play their game with their time.

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it is allowed and it isn’t cheating… the conversation is. should it be considered cheating. .and i say yes.

Blizzard has allowed Multiboxing since 2004. You and your fellow botters who don’t like the fact that you are being price checked on the AH with price gouging. No amount of QQ’ing from you and your fellow botters will change that. But do keep trying…I greatly enjoyed farming that extra node today and putting it all on the AH once again ensuring you and your fellow botters can’t price gouge players. :grinning:

bro im not a botter nor am i a multiboxer. ya’ll are getting mad at the wrong person

:grin: :rofl: :grin: :laughing: Yeah ok…

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Yes, the gall you have. To break the rules, get upset because an allowed playstyle performs better than your bots, then come to the forums to try and eliminate your competition.

Any self respecting player worth his/her salt would post on their main and not hide behind alts as they spew their word vomit.

Because they are not even remotely the same thing.

Botting is where software plays your character for you. As in your character would perform actions without your direct intervention.

Multiboxing has each character perform a single action in response to a single button press. So once you stop pressing buttons, your characters immediately stop responding.

The person multiboxing is doing the content once per account. They press a single button and that results in a single action per client window.

Because the bot software is playing your character for you. That is the fundamental difference.

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Then you didn’t read the thread.

If there was a quiz based on this thread, you would have gotten a big fat zero on it.

Based on what you’ve said so far, we know that you haven’t done any research whatsoever.

Cute, accuse people of being a multiboxer when they don’t agree with you. Boring nonsense that was tiresome 15 years ago.

And you’re doing a very bad job at it since you have no idea what you’re talking about. If you can’t tell the fundamental difference between botting and multiboxing, then you need to go back the drawing board and start over.

And you just happen to be parroting anti-multiboxer arguments. Sure, whatever.

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I’m not Blizzard, so I can’t speak for them but I feel like they are going to see it like this response.

What happens when 5 players and 1 multiboxer join a battleground? 10 character slots are filled. The results are identical to a situation where each character is controlled by a single player. We can run over the relative merits and disadvantages of multiboxing til the bovines return to their abodes, but factually, that’s what we’re dealing with: 10 characters vs. 10 characters. The raw ability of those 10 characters to accomplish their goal (winning the battleground) is identical within reasonable assessment of individual class abilities, gear and skill.

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/38173-changes-to-multiboxing-in-battle-for-azeroth

I know it’s about Battlegrounds but they may look at nodes the same way, 10 characters gathered so working as intended :man_shrugging:

but they do suffer from /follow not working, and other players ability to outmaneuver them

That’s not the standard, a player must initiate all actions the character performs.

I say no :slight_smile:

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I buy mats from auction house because I don’t want to farm mats. Therefore, I like multiboxers because they keep the supply going.

I’ve only seen multiboxers in action about 4 times since vanilla, so don’t think they are that common and doubt they are as detrimental to the game as jealous spammers claim.

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this is pretty accurate, the most common REAL bots you see are the swarms of boomkin running around along a predictable route (usually in a 2x4 farming configuration) blasting everything in sight in order to farm raw gold and vendor any drops they get, and spamming loot-a-rang on cooldown so they don’t need to stop at specific corpses.

The key difference though, is that while the bots will all be following the exact same route, they tend to spread out along that route (usually in areas with high respawn rate and a ton of mobs) so that they can tag as many mobs as possible as quickly as they can spawn in for max gold/hr. multi-boxxing needs all the characters to be grouped up in a pile.

if you watch them long enough you will even see that they will all mount up to sell the junk at the exact same spot along that route after however many laps they make.

the place I spot them most often is at el’dranil shallows in azsuna killing the murlocs, likely because there are a TOOOOOOONNNN of mobs in that area, with really fast respawn timers (basically instant with that many bots killing them that quickly) and its recent enough content that the gold/hr is going to be “okay” but since its old content you don’t get many people wandering through (and the few who do are probably more interested in just blasting through the lvls instead of stopping to report a botter) which means they aren’t as likely to get caught.

TLDR: if you see 8 people flying around in a massive stack picking herbs, its probably just a multi-boxxer. If you see 8 people running around chaotically, its probably players just doing some 2x4 farming. if you see 8 people running around with some distance between em, but all following the exact same path… thats a bot.

Fact is, most botters don’t care about resource nodes, because its not efficient to farm them with a bot. you would need to program the bot to fly to where each node is supposed to spawn, then attempt to farm it, regardless of if its actually there or not, most bots aren’t advanced enough or adaptable enough to identify if a node has actually spawned there or not (and definitely not adaptable enough to update their route on the fly to avoid nodes that haven’t spawned in, or have been harvested already)
Thats not to say that bots like that DON’T exist, but they are also pretty easy to spot, because you would see the druid stack landing at every spawn point, in order, regardless of if anything is actually there.

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Thanks for the flippant, incorrect, uninformed post.

Also false-flagging may result in a hidden post, temporarily, but the “big, bad false-flag monster” that gets people banned just from flags doesn’t exist. It’s something the pre-pubescent that live and die by social media believe. Belief in it comes from a lack of understanding on how the disciplinary system works in this game.

Mark of the troll. Logical fallacy. Ignorance incarnate.

Here is the entirety of my refute, which would beat you in any debate which is moderated and scored:

  • Blizzard writes (wrote) the rules, and
  • Blizzard says it is not cheating, therefore
  • In WoW, multiboxing is not cheating.

:blue_square: :blue_square: :brown_square: :blue_square: QED :blue_square: :brown_square: :blue_square: :blue_square:

They wrote the rules, fellow human. They decide what is cheating and what isn’t. It’s not like they were interpreting someone else’s rules when they wrote the terms … they literally made up those terms.

The idea that they “just don’t understand” is delusional. If they didn’t want multiboxing, they would have defined it as off-limits in the rules.

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