Mount Collector Support Group v25

I must’ve handed in a dozen boxes for Court of Farondis during that TW event with no luck. I’ll keep at it, whenever there’s an emissary quest for them especially.

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550 Tavazesh Glider
551 Mail Muncher 57 attempts
552 Marrowfang 61 attempts
553 Sarge’s Tale
554 Xinlao (first attempt! so this is how that feels)

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#676 - Big Blizzard Bear

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According to all possible mounts in game - via Dataforazeroth tracking.

#756 Time-Lost Protodrake

out of a total 906.

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Hmm I think Dataforazeroth is lying to you.

You only have 693 under your Armory profile and that’s about 50 too high. Exia, the guy that posted before you, has 722 according to his Armory (difference of 46.) I’m at 632 per my Armory but 588 total (difference of 54.)

My guess if your real count is some where between 640 to 660. I tried to see what the Secret Discord bot is for you but I think it sensed I wasn’t you and wouldn’t give me a number :stuck_out_tongue:

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See my last few posts for more explanation on what the counts are showing.

Edited to add: I have added 1 mount since I did the spreadsheet counts.

Calculating mounts is a giant pain. My armory and journal show 722 but I know my actual “usable” count that the achievements and statistics used to display is 676. Data for Azeroth shows me at 631 for my character but 720 for account mounts and Simple Armory shows 660 for my character.

Really there’s only two numbers that matter, the one that is used for the achievement (Usable mounts on one character) and the second would just be the armory or any external site that tracks it (like Data for Azeroth) but even that isn’t accurate because it will say you don’t own opposite faction mounts that you do own if you were to jump on another character of the opposite faction and it just blurs the lines.

You’d have to hop on an Alliance and Horde character and basically look at the unobtained mounts listed for both under the journal and then start manually adding the ones you do have that the other faction says you don’t. Its just a giant headache which is why I just go by the usable mount count which will include every mount that doesn’t have an opposite faction copy. This means it will include Alliance specific mounts that are unique to them such as the Bee or Horde specific ones like Kua’fon, meaning you will need to make an opposite faction character to get those mounts because they do increase your usable mount count even if your on the opposite faction. This is also why the BFA rep mounts for both factions count even for opposite faction characters because the reputations are all different, the faction lock doesn’t stop them from increasing your mount count.

This is why I go by the usable mount count.

Another way would be to create a paladin on both horde and alliance then compare the two characters using simple armory. You will be able to see what mounts you are missing on which faction that will increase your count. This in my opinion is the most accurate way to know what your actually missing.

If you take a look at what dataforazeroth shows in terms of account mounts it adds every possible mount in the game that has ever been.
It’s a much more structured (and accurate) account of what a person has amongst their account then the armory or the old statistics rational most people have used for years.

How it is more accurate than the old statistics count when that’s what the achievement went off of?

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Except its still a giant mess. After playing with the filters, apparently there are only 52 mounts left for me that I can still get, everything else is unobtainable. Yet it continues to tell me I can still obtain 125 mounts, those extra 73 mounts are opposite faction mounts. I have those mounts but the API can’t tell that because it still pulls the info from my horde character, which can’t display Alliance mount info. A lot of those 73 mounts are simply Alliance mounts from the Vanilla reps that are automatically converted when you swap factions, so its essentially double dipping.

The achievement and the old statistic number tracks all unique mounts, regardless of faction. This is the most accurate number, even account wide. There isn’t any double dipping as it removes those mounts from the count.

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He has 648 per secret discords.

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Just received my 524th mount from the rare Warbringer Mal’korak in Maldraxxus. Took me only 25 attempts to earn it. My newest mount is the Blisterback Bloodtusk! :smiley:

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#677 - Champion’s Treadblade
#678 - Proudmoore Sea Scout
#679 - Stormsong Coastwatcher
#680 - Dusky Waycrest Gryphon

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DFA- acquires all of its information directly from the Blizzard Api. You can’t get more accurate than that. It has the most comprehensive tracking for rankings available for any fan site. It’s a great resource.

If you upload your account data to the dataforazeroth website it will give you a better understanding of all mounts in the game you have currently that are obtainable with alts and your whole account versus one character.

Collecting on one character (while comparing to every one else) is an older and outdated method of tracking (imo). You may have the alliance / horde transfer equivalents. Except do you actually have the mounts now on another character or only if you transfer that alt? It’s a big difference when comparing collected mounts to others.

Yes I own the other mounts on my alliance characters, that was my point. The “old method” is perfectly valid as it accounts for all unique mounts that do not have an equivalent (read vanilla rep faction mounts and anything else applicable).

My point is the API isn’t good as it double dips but if you want to use the double dipping to bump your numbers up by all means. Blizzard tracks it using the achievement with the “outdated method” (is it an outdated method if Blizzard still uses it?) so you can use whatever you like beyond that.

I prefer to stick with the “outdated method” its cleaner, simpler and Blizzard uses it themselves. Maybe the solution is everyone should post both numbers as everyone seems to go back and forth on using either or.

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I agree with Exia.

The whole point of this thread is to mimic the achievement, hence we’re using secret discords count mechanism.

If you want to inflate your count, be my guest.

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Funny thing is that the Stats counter and Secret Discord bot are the ones inflating the numbers.

I know that I keep getting flak when I try to point out the discrepancies. But if people would just look over the data I provided, they just might be able to notice it as well.

Has anyone stopped to wonder WHY Blizz removed the Stats counter?

I knew it was inflating the numbers before you even posted.

Each classhall mount counts no matter what character you’re on. It’s been awhile but I think it adds 22? 24? Something like that. You would think it wouldn’t do that and the max it would count is 4 (since Paladins get four unique mounts. Rogues too I believe.) I think it also counts up to three (again for Paladins) for the old class mounts.

Then I also think it counts every single profession mount, whether you can use it or not.

I think the classhall mounts should count as a max of 4 but I’m not going to argue with it because it’s Blizzard that’s giving me that +22(?), not Secrets Discord or any other external source. I watched my statistics page go up every time I got a new classhall mount so in my mind that makes it legit. I’m reaching into the far corners of my memory here but I believe the reason they did this was for Druids because they don’t get any mounts to their collection. I’m sure it was supposed to be just the 4 but whatevs, it’s a bug they never fixed.

It also counts each allied race mount as one. It doesn’t see (for example) the Kul Tiran horse and Zandalari direhorn as a duplicate. But again, I watched the statistic’s page count go up every time I got a new one so I view it as legit.

The Secret’s Discord bot is the only thing that I know of that continues that statistics page count and that’s why most of us view it as the most real count. Caddarly can tout that he has over 700 mounts if he wants but I’m telling you right now that if Blizzard released an achievement mount for having 700 tomorrow, he wouldn’t get it. That’s why nobody really cares if he wants to inflate his numbers. It means nothing.

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Basically everything Tovi said.

There’s about 30 odd mounts that count for the achievement but not the way you would have thought i.e. the class mounts, alliance bike etc.

I would love Blizzard to add two achievements in the future, one say for 600 and one for 700. I expect the later achievement will say 653/700.

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See all of this is the confusing part of it.

As shown above (link), the Mount Journal count on my Tauren Pally was 501. Secret Discord bot put her at 535. That is 34 unusable mounts to account for now. So I tried looking over all that I have and came down to still needing to account for 1 more mount.

  • Legion class mounts: 21 (-4 for her being a Pally)
  • Profession restricted mounts: 7 (-6 for her having ENG/TAIL)
  • Paladin class mounts not from Legion: 12 (-2 for her being Tauren)
  • Other class mounts not from Legion: 5

TOTAL: 33

The only other mount I can think of that might be throwing a kink in to all of this is the Vashj’ir Seahorse. It seems to count and not count all at the same time. When I initially started doing the spreadsheet on her she had not done the quest chain for the Seahorse yet. But even after doing the quest, her count never changed. I have noticed some wonkiness with Simple Armory in regards to that mount as well.

Small note: I have acquired 1 new mount since doing the spreadsheet.


But since most people seem fine with how the mounts were being counted previously, then I will just not worry about it any longer. I was just really confused early on with how the counts could differ so much and needed to get it right in my head as to why. Now I see why.