MoP numbers are flopping hard. Such an obvious cash grab

Thanks to IronforgePro, the latest raid numbers are out and they’re surprisingly low. At just 157,114 characters who have raid logs, this marks the lowest participated opening week in the Classic timeline.

I think the biggest issue here, is that MoP and beyond, are versions of the game that are so close to current retail and so much further away from “classic” (Vanilla/TBC/Some of WOTLK) that many have no reason to play these versions of the game that don’t fully satisfy whatever kind of player you might be (classic enjoyer just goes on anniversary/hardcore/era, retail can stay on retail for a better version of the game).

When classic was first announced many years ago, people literally used to meme “can’t wait for MoP or WoD classic :^)” and yet here we are, with some people in full denial. I think it stems from people not ready to give up or move on from their characters they’ve been so invested in since 2019 classic, wanting continued progression through expansions that aren’t classic because if they hear that classic won’t be proceeding anymore it will cause further decline and disinterest.

This is not even mentioning the massive can of worms that Blizzard has opened, what happens to classic toons, do they go to retail with their uncollectables, or do they stay on some kind of MoP era realm.

Other small things that impacting numbers as well

  • We just MOP Remix last year
  • Overlapping release with the new retail patch

To sum it up, classic 2019 should’ve stopped with WOTLK, with all of those realms becoming permanent wrath-era realms, and then a new cycle begins. When the new cycle reaches and completes wrath, all those chars are then transferred to the original, permanent wrath-era realms, and then the cycle starts again with fresh servers starting at vanilla again.

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Wotlk was trash.

Mop is better.

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i just came back after years of being gone since vanilla ended and 100%, things should have reset or stopped after WotLK

dungeon finder, while its a good idea makes people toxic and selfish

crafting lost impact each expansion after

the game becomes a faceroll (it was before cause rotations where not elaborate, but you dont even need what little brain was needed from before)

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This is an asinine cherry pick of statistics from the first lockout (Thursday to Tuesday) where most people weren’t even raiding lol. No it should have not stopped at WoTLK. The numbers will be much higher this lockout. We’ve been playing since 2019. We don’t need to replay the same easy crap from Vanilla over and over. It’s a bad game that got carried by the initial hype and pandemic.

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Face roll? You haven’t even cleared normal yet…

If anything people stop playing because it’s too hard…

Also professions are making me like 40,000 gold a week… you don’t even play the game

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The first not even full week lockout of the entry level raid at the very start of the expansion in an environment where challenge mode dungeons are the new* shiny feature has a relatively low turnout? Say it isn’t so

Amusing how it’s always the same people making these claims. Y’all don’t need to try and gaslight everyone else to convince yourself you aren’t having fun, you can just quit

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this seems not to be true at all

opening week classic: 42k
tbc: 71k
wotlk: 408k
cata: 209k
anniversary: 23k
mop: 157k

may i ask where u sourced this info from? ironforgepro does not say what u say it does

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These people don’t even play the game lmao.

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His behind? WDYM? This is a weird doomer post, don’t use logic with him. I’m on layer 10 on Mankrik lol.

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People are taking so long to level/gear up they aren’t ready to clear the raid the first week.

Wait a few weeks, especially when HoF releases.

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you understand i played MoP before you were probably even born right?

people are literally wall pulling heroics

and thats exactly what makes crafting a joke, making tonnes of money doesnt make it good for the game, or engaging, everything is just required slop, nearly nothing holds any weight, everyone has everything except raid gear

raids are pretty cool tho

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What does a heroic dungeon have to do with the raid?

Everyone has everything except raid loot in every expansion after a few weeks.

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the average player is like 465 ilevel and u can get into the 480s without raiding, don’t think they’ve done most stuff yet

You didn’t clear the raids back then either lmfao.

History really does repeat itself.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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? what are you talking about

This guy used ChatGPT and didn’t even check the sources/bother to confirm the validity of the info

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Except for Vanilla, and TBC. The only ones with more are Wrath and Cata which had a lower barrier of entry to get in.

The game has evolved passed raiding only. Which are the only things to do in Classic-WoTLK.

Now you can do a variety of things and start collections and do the legendary questlines for each expac.

The biggest issue is they eliminated LFR which is how the majority of players want to raid.

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Celestial Dungeons release next week and I am sure a ton of people will do them, although they are probably too difficult for you.

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Which part confused you?

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