Moonguard - Horde Experience

I’m not when I’m neurodivergent myself?? Literally. I’d rather stay inside where it’s cooler than being outside in the heat. I think maybe we should speak more directly for the sake of efficiency in getting to the point. Instead of saying things that could lead to a potential health risk. It’d be the same as telling someone to go outsude in the middle of below zero temperatures. Let’s be a bit more mindful of Mother Nature. Especially when some places are going to hit record highs in the next few months.

I think in all honesty the toxic positivity and even say “go outside” is more dangerous to people. Yes people shouldnt take the game and even ro seriously but I’m starting to see it come more from the people saying things like “go outside.” If you truly cared about people maybe get to know their situation and have a bit more empathy for them.

Because all you’re doing is virtue signaling. You really don’t care about them. Be more mindful of what you’re saying is what I’m saying.

If I don’t come off correctly I can try to clarify it better. Communication is important but so is being direct in that communication. Say what you mean, mean what you say. It’ll make things better.

I think there’s just a misunderstanding on what Claresta means here. Touching grass is not a literal term at all, but genuinely good mental health advice for decoupling from the source of the stress and allowing yourself relaxation and fun in other hobbies. I can recommend a good book, or cooking if that relaxes you. Spending an afternoon doing real tactile things with your hands.

Comments on pointless virtue signaling aside, which believe me, I get, it’s best not to get bogged down on the small nuances of how the idea is presented and keep in mind non screen time is very healthy!

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we should tell people to refresh instead

do some stretches, drink some water, get a bit of sun. do it while jogging, get the blood moving

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I always understood “touch grass” to be more of a metaphor to realize that the online world that sucks so much emotion out of us is an illusionary hell crafted by megacorporations to wring the last pennies out of our carcasses before tossing our broken, wasted lives down a mineshaft.

I’m not sure where neurodivergency enters.

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*HISSSSSSS! *

Not the cursed Day Star! We hate it!

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I smell Rakham on fire. Can we get a blanket or umbrella for them?! The sun is a monster! Stop burning people!

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It buuuuuurns us!

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Don’t you die on us again! You took arrows, 14 slashes, 7 bombs, and 3 mauling by feral creatures for the team in the 3rd war, so don’t let the sun be what does ya in now! (I don’t know how you died the first time before becoming forsaken but at least this makes you sound like a juggernaut of a fighter)

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It’s not a virtue signal to point out the groups you mentioned can go without screentime. It’s virtue signaling to treat any collective group as infantile.

And to re-state: This isn’t about literally going outside. No one is advising to put oneself in danger of heat stroke. As it’s been repeated many times now, “touch grass” is time off from screens and Internet. We should all do that. My “touch grass” non-screen hobbies are animal rescue, art, audio books, and learning how to fix things around the house.

Back to the original comment all this related to, falsely advertising a guild and then to tell folks who’ve joined that they’re essentially redshirts for other’s RP stories sucks but it’s not the worst example of guild leadership I’ve come across — and that unfortunately says something.

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I get the commentary from both sides.

“Touch grass” is kind of related to those memes that boomers make about how much better life was when kids didn’t have computers and were outside playing where the trees are. It’s not really used that way here, but overall it kind of smacks of hobby shaming or weaponized nostalgia.

Saying “take a break” is semantically less offensive. It’s not specifically telling people what to do during the break that is implied “better than” by association with the great outdoors and trees.

Either way, maybe we should just not tell people what they need to be doing? Not my business if they’re in front of a computer 24/7 or how many screens they’re staring at. If someone’s toxic, a break probably isn’t going to fix that.

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I kind of appreciate the aggressive thrust of “touch grass,” because it’s often wielded as a defense against terminally online people. Because being too online can actually make someone dangerous and I don’t hate having a way of pointing that out.

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Some people do need to just…talk to people. Go outside. Realize that the reality that is being constructed around them is false and the enemy of any real personal growth or wisdom.

I can’t force you to do that, but there’s a lot of people I’ll write off with a “They really need to get off the computer.”

Haha this, I didn’t even write the words touch grass and even offered other examples:

My original post is responding primarily to Raton’s sharing their experience and people being super terrible to them. I know Whitemane tribe is good folks (I miss soup nights) and I don’t doubt Raton’s experiences.

I just can’t wrap my brain around that behavior? If you are so deep into world of warcraft RP that you would treat someone poorly over make believe not going your way, please take a break, do something else away from it because this is supposed to be a fun silly hobby.

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As a fan of roleplay (online, tabletop, and even live-action) for a very, very long time now. I can say without any question, you should never underestimate the human capacity to get tilted over someone else’s make-believe.

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LITERALLY my five year old nephew is more mature than these folks.

They love Mario and Mario Kart and we were playing against each other and I was letting them win, because they’re 5 and it let them have fun. Well, then they got cocky and started to talk smack and I was like OH YAH??? and I kicked their butt. Get humbled kid!!! My nephew got fed up and said, I want to play by myself!!

Later, they came back and asked if I wanted to play again, I replied, I thought you didn’t want to play with me anymore and they said, “Sometimes I get mad, and that’s okay, so I take a break.”

I’m just like, oh my gawd so many grown adults could learn a lot from this kid.

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Some folks get tilted at Mister Rogers but half his teachings were emotional regulation like this. That kid has it better figured out than adult counterparts.

Also, I’ve been in the same position with niblings. I’m happy to let them win when they’re little, but if they have bad sportsmanship… gloves are off, kiddo. The game I whooped them in was the most recent Super Smash Brothers. After realizing they were outclassed and took a break, they came back and wanted to learn all the fancy dodge tricks. They are my SSB padawan now.

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Sometimes you gotta beat them kids

This thread sure took a turn.

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I find singing very therapeutic.

S-s-s-s, A-a-a-a, F-f-f-f, E-e-e-e, T-t-t-t, Y-y-y-y.

Safe, safe, safety… Dance!

Cheers
:coffee:

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Oh Smash Bros might be a fun one to introduce them to next time I visit. It has Mario in it and he loves Mario!! So he can be his fave while I Falcon Punch him off the edge lmao

That’s cute though! I agree, it’s not fun to beat literal children and there’s also joy in letting them win but yah gotta nip that bad sportsmanship. I AM YOUR SENIOR!

I think I’m just lucky that my tabletop group (that’s been in hiatus since the pandemic) all have 9-5s or busy schedules or global pandemics, so if we ever do get the chance to play there’s just no appetite or energy to get bent outta shape over things.

You’re not wrong thow, a friend in my group was part of a private mini tabletop group that had a big of a falling out cause by some real petty squabbling.

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