MMObyte just released the top ten MMORPG's of 2019

There are no game reviewers out there I trust share my tastes in MMOs and I don’t get enjoy joy out of puttering around in random games to try them all myself.

Indeed, and that’s unfortunate. That doesn’t mean an actual shill doesn’t exist, however. So it’s still better to point it out. Streamers who get paid to promote a game could be an example of an actual shill (assuming they get paid to positively promote the game regardless of their own opinion of it and not just give their own honest evaluation of it).

Ok, so you’re talking about people who are opposed to shills rather than people who are being the opposite of shills.

Considering I don’t know which specific group you’re referring to, it can contain a potentially broad spectrum of people. I’m not sure there is a name to cover them.

Yet you’re still here.

The MMOByte “ranking” seems to complete contradict itself. It makes no sense.

Game of the Year? No.

Fortnite won Fan Favorite Game. WoW won Fan Favorite MMORPG (in a category that didn’t include GW2). Vast difference between Fan Favorite MMORPG and “Game of the Year”.

And in the same breath you’re leveling these swipes at the OP:

Awkward.

Back to the point, what WoW won at the inaugural Gamers’ Choice awards was a geo-limited (U.S. residents only; non-American MMORPG fan favorites don’t count), spammable (could submit votes every hour) contest against an incomplete field (Guild Wars 2 was not included) of games with far smaller populations.

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Sounds like click bait top 10 list doodoo.

People like blitzkareeg.

Yeah I saw the video yesterday I think when I was curious of other games out there… it’s subjective which people don’t understand. And he brings up some valid points on WoW.

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You can believe whatever you want to believe while I will do the same.

MMOByte, much like most online ‘news’ sites, it is run by a small team who have their own agendas and nothing but clicks matter.

As someone above noted, the same site has another list where FF14 is 13th. They write articles to cater to whoever wants to read their stuff, and the more they right, the more everything fades away and no one notices their inconsistencies.

Well when I look at product reviews I tend to also care about the qualifications of the reviewer. I’d trust an established games journalist to evaluate the quality of a new video game, for instance. I would not trust Armond White to tell me what movie I should see, however.

Same criteria applies here. But what’s baffling is that MMOByte isn’t being touted as a site with credible complaints about the game. Regardless of their size, I might still pay attention to what they have to say so long as their criticism was logical.

But that’s not what they’ve done. All OP has directed me to is an arbitrary ranking of MMOs without any kind of justification for the ranking whatsoever. So again, I must reiterate my confusion.

Sadly even the most qualified reviewer is often bought and sold :frowning: I prefer to just give everything okay and make up my own mind.

Except everyone knows who Siskel and Ebert were, even people that didn’t like movie critics and their grandmother’s bingo group. People that are so retentive that they’ll argue the semantics of the minutia of WoW and or any other MMO have no clue who these people are.

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So you are telling me, on Metacritic, that a lousy 300 user ratings more than Legions brought BFA down to a 3.1? I do not think so. If BfA was so good there would be more positive scores from players period, do not give me a “review bombing” excuse, just admit, more players cant stand this “Dumpster Fire”! Leave it at that. Looking at the Legion player score, it was just a matter of fact players liked it FAR FAR more than BfA, period.

Review bombing, yeah ok. Its just when more people are displeased with a product they will speak out. Just because they do not leave a detailed “essay” on why they hate it has no baring on the matter.

I can bet you that even the critic score for BfA would be in the 50’s at best if it were rated today. This expansion is in shambles.

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Yup.
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So this got moved because it shows WoW at the bottom huh? Its abour WoW and other games, GD is GENERAL Discussion, and ANYTHING with WoW included in it falls under that title. Nice way to bury it. Guess all the MVP’s posting in here is why it was moved.

What a petty move.

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I agree with Blitz though about this being moved. Least this thread and GD have some semblance with involving the game itself and yet they allow : GD Lounge # Reforged.

They even have it in their FAQ:

“That means you don’t need to talk about WoW (b)ut you can do it), you can talk about whatever you want. Blizzard, your life, other video games, tv shows, books you name it.”

I like how at the time you decided to write this, the only “knighting” people were doing was asking why what MMObyte says should matter… which both you and OP have yet to give a good reason for.

Get over yourself.

I agree though, it’s too common people make these “knighting or shill” claims without having common sense in their oppositions’ stance.

If someone enjoys their time spent playing this game, they’re less likely to be influenced by outside opinion no matter the credentials of said critic.

Sometimes people can’t agree to disagree.

I do not have a problem with myself. Si it must just be a you problem.

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This isn’t about you having a problem with yourself. This is about you making an overblown statement to discredit legitimate inquiries.

In fact, you’re white knighting OP.