sorry to break it to you bud but voidwalker is useless. at least mm pets can lust this thing does nothing.
Sadly, for non demo locks, it is the only “tank pet”, which, like MM hunter pets, is only used in solo content. The only difference? MM hunters sometimes have to use their pet to provide lust, locks never do and any utility from the pet they can give themselves via Grimoire of Sacrifics.
it’s threat generation is nonexistent so it serves no purpose.
uh…isn’t Vanish (and the benefits to abilities from stealth it provides) part of every rogue spec’s rotation?
It also has a taunt, which, like growl, can be set to auto cast. Look, I never said it was a GOOD tank, just that was the purpose it had for non-demo warlocks, and even if the threat gen is not the best, the taunt and such at least make it better then nothing.
Unlikely, yes. But that chance makes your statement false. Its not ONLY for m+.
You have legs that are capable of movement.
You are the one arguing what something is ONLY for. You shoe horn the hunter based on your own perspective of content.
But nice try trying to twist onto me.
You’ve reached that point.
Go look.
Its not relevant to the convo. Its a disengenuous tangent you brought up to twist the argument.
Act less like a pompous know it all, and you’d see less of it.
Mm spec being petless…you about 4 xpac late to complain about that
Look, another one that thinks the addition of lone wolf meant MM hunters went petless 100% of the time.
A lot of MM hunters, even if they took lone wolf, still used their pet as a pocket tank in solo content. The complaint now is based more on the idea that the option is being taken away.
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Put spell lock back in our general talent tree and rework sacrifice to be a damage buff without summoning any kind of demons and it would be bankable.
if you want to spell lock you can just swap specs
My eyes must deceive me with every non demonology warlock out there having it out in open world tanking and holding agro for them. 
As i said blizzard will do their rework ,some will adapt to change some will re roll or quit ,but don’t troll people with this it serves no purpose nonsense, pet has clear purpose and use just because lone wolf is highly recommended for maximizing damage in instanced content.
As M.J use to say: Just stop,get some help.
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Imagine the outcry if a rogue spec lost stealth. But hunters are just supposed to shut up and accept the total gutting of the class this way.
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Because they can’t give petless hunters any utility because you could always just summon a pet.
Right now marks doesn’t get lust, mortal strike, or a hard stun because all of those are tied to the pet, and it would be OP if we got both the pet version and a non-pet version.
In 11.1, since we don’t have a pet, we can get non-pet versions of all of those. That’s why they’re making the change and that’s why I’m pumped for it.
Still have to put it somewhere into a tree, good lord if you are gonna try to push this at least think it through before you say it.
True
I might be off here, but is this an ability not tied to exotic pets, which are BM only, anyway?
May I point out a petless intimidatein the Hunter side of the spec trees?
And the thing is, as far as utility, every thing you listed is stuff we want to have in group content or PvP, where most of us likely would prefer to be pet less anyway but are sometimes forced to have the pet out. The thing is, in order to get it we are losing the tank utility of a pat for solo content.
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But it isn’t. It summons your pet and then you have to dismiss it in order to get your DPS back.
That’s what all this is about. There’s all of these halfway compromises between the spec people actually want to be playing, without pets, and the idea that we have to have pets because “that’s what hunters do”. They’re just ripping that bandaid off and seeing what Marks can do if it’s actually free to be the spec it wants to be.
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As outlaw, you get access to Ambush. If you don’t take crackshot not much benefit, though crackshot is a big part of outlaws current DPS it is a talent. Vs regular mobs in world you vanish, mobs reset too.
Because it doesn’t serve a purpose.
1 chaos bolt is enough to rip aggro off the voidwalker.
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I’ll tell you what’s next…
Warlocks already do all that Key.