Min/Max essences/corruptions aren't a requirement

For what ? Having the opinion that the game is fun and enjoyable for me ?

For breaking the forum CoC with almost every post of yours, as you liked to point it out a lot of the stuff you say violates it in one way or another.

Saying essences shouldn’t be account wide is CoC breaking ?

What CoC are you reading ?

Trolling, however, is. Which is something you love to do. Look, you’re doing it right now.

for trolling. I will continue to flag your posts. That’s all you are. You add nothing to the conversation. When I respond to your posts with specifics, you never even concede. Just on to the next.

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I disagree if you want to do something current you NEED to stay on top or at least in the upper bracket. But if all you’re going to do is the same stuff as before then no it’s not needed at all.

And for yourself alone, but other people obviously do not have the spare time/capacity to enable such playtime that you do (some may say you have an addiction). And obviously you have had enough time in the past to get through mythic BoD well enough not just on your main, but to then get the mog set for an alt of another armor type.

Most people playing this game do not at all fall under that area. And when said people have expressed their discomfort with the game you have gone after them. That’s why people have not liked your posts, you are trying to defend something that alot of people don’t like. And thus their only explanation is just that you are trolling.

Stop acting like a crybully. This is your MO: come in guns blazing at people and then cry about forum codes of conduct when they respond in kind. The fact that you have to bring it up so often with so many different people should clue you in that they aren’t the problem.

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Disagreeing with you guys is not trolling. What you are doing here, trying to rile me up however, is.

By that logic, one could say what you’re doing right now is trying to rile them up, no? Definitely staying in this thread, posting the same things over and over and misquoting people, definitely could be seen as that. Digging your own hole.

Just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I am trolling. You are not entitled to having everyone just repeat and agree with what you say.

I genuinely believe what I say and I’m allowed to participate in the discussion even though I disagree with you.

By disagreeing with them and presenting my opinion ?

That’s quite the opposite than the personal attacks they are lobbing at me.

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I insult no one, I ask the same in return.

it’s literally not that. they flat out ignore responses and keep posting the same thing. He asked me a specific question and I responded, then went on to say I didn’t. In the very same post I outlined exactly what was I saying… then he said “you didn’t.”

That’s trolling.

this has nothing at all to do it. You flat out ignored what I said in a post. Then went on to ask me what I defined as good… then I quoted it again. And you still with…

that’s trolling.

And since you don’t respond when called out, then I’ll just assume, as you always do, you’re trolling.

Spare me. Your account is overdrawn, friendo. People like you are, ironically, the exact reason a forum Code of Conduct exists. Some people just won’t act decent on their own.

Why would I respond after you provided the definition ? Obviously, you’re talking about something I’m not if you’re trying to talk about Mythic raiding here, while I’m discussing alts and casuals.

Yeah, 4 people just dogpiling me here is me breaking the CoC :roll_eyes:

Muting this thread, what a waste.

???

I responded to your comment and you can’t even have the decency to respond back. You asked a question I had already answered… twice.

Currently mythic n’zoth in its current state is statistically impossible without having any essences or corruption gear, you could probably even have full raid group of 475 ilvl and even then because you done have corruption or essences not enough damage to beat the enrage time. Once world first is over and huge nerfs come through yea MAYBE possible but at this point its not.
Pushing High keys will be impossible without them aswell and doing high level pvp content also will be NEAR impossible depending on how much more skill you have compared to your opponent.

What your saying is like “i dont NEED money in life” technically yea you can live a life without it but you will be homeless be sick majority of the time and probably will have to steal a lot aswell.

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Implying Blizzard had no idea the playerbase would create it’s own requirements. Insinuating min/maxing hasn’t been a thing since competitive gameplay. I’m not saying Blizzard should create content based on keeping things all inclusive, but let’s not pretend they didn’t foresee this happening.

I was demonstrating BiS vs non-BiS in its entirety. Lots of people state that you don’t require BiS, and when it comes down to it… it really depends on a lot of factors as to what you “require.” Things like player skill and player goals have to be taken into account. One player may require less gear to complete a goal than another player. The one thing that remains universal though… is regardless of skill, and regardless of activity… having more gear/power tends to increase the chances of success (except those weird lowbie quests that require you to tap a mob but not kill it!). As such, people try to acquire as much power as possible to improve the odds of success. Does Method or Limit require the absolute best of the best to get CE? Absolutely not. Do they require the best of the best to get world first? Absolutely…

My point is, depending on your goals, your personal skill, and your teams expectations… how hard you have to push for BiS changes. If my goal was to just do +10 keys and get AotC, would I need to min/max? Absolutely not. I’d pick the best traits, pick the best talents, put on whatever I have in my bag that seems good and then go get AotC without issue. Do I need to min/max to get CE or push +20 keys? Absolutely…

If you want me to do a calculation of BiS Corruption/Essences vs no corruption/crap essences, I can’t right now as I don’t have access to the data. From napkin math though and based on: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#mage_fire?data_view=essences

I’d lose 13k from swapping my major from the best to the worst. And I’d lose 10k by dropping the best corruption essence. So at its worst I’d be losing 23k dps. Being more realistic though, let’s say I use the second best essence major and second best corruption. I’d still lose 5k dps from the major swap, and would 4k dps from the corruption swap for a loss of 9k dps.

I don’t know about you, but I’d say 9k dps… is a relatively significant amount of dps to just… throw away. If I took that attitude with all of my current gear… then I’d lose 21k dps… If I had BiS infinite stars then I’d lose 31k dps. And that’d be fine… if I was just running around completing WQ and doing old content. But I’m not doing that… so it’s not.