Well, it does work off of Pillar of Frost, but again, its a damage window where Razorice from DW boosts all the damage in that window including Obliterate while 2h just does Obliterate.
So Razorice exists without obliteration, so does pillar of frost. How does adding obliteration to the mix affect the damage of the other abilities?
Nope. They donât mention specifics.
The other abilties? It doesnt, it doesnt for 2h either though. It just gives both weapons KM procs if you can play the damage window properly as a talent.
Exactly, which is why 2H gains more, since its oblits are buffed by 25%.
And its the only ability in that window that gets any benefit. You want to use Howling Blast and Frost Strike to trigger KM right? In fact you HAVE to so it makes it an integral part of the window, and 2h doesnt do anything to either of those abilities but DW does.
How exactly does DW use the Obliteration talent to buff those abilities?
Bicepspump, you are my favorite person on these forums. You often bring real logic and analysis based on data. I find your posts very insightful. You also do such a great job keeping your cool in the face of blatantly irrational or unsupported points of view.
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I donât even need to argue anything here, you did it for yourself.
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Wow, way to completely miss the point. You even said earlier that Obliteration could be better for DW didnt you?
Itâs looking strong for DW yes, compared to other talent choices. DW also gains the value from the KM procs, wouldâve been weird if it didnât?
is what he is saying, and you are hearing this:
Except I was talking about DPS and he wasnt⌠thats all I have been talking about in this thread.
Important to note here is that you responded to my post saying I was wrong about my specific point.
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I think it might be good to go test some of this out on target dummies, it seems like the Acherus discord is on it right now. I am sure weâll see something interesting come of it before the end of the day.
Which was entirely dependent on what you meant by gain. In the window it does not gain any more KM procs than DW⌠right? If played the exact same of course.
If you have 15% on all abilities within that window its better than 25% on a singular ability. Again, you cant just spam Obliterate in this window and get any benefit from the talent, you are forced to use Howling Blast through Rime preferably, or Frost Strike. Look at the entire picture.
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seems it was pretty clear:
Hereâs what I wrote.
Like I said earlier. From my testing, DW will favor RA and Icecap. So the value of Obliteration between DW and 2H is rather moot. But feel free to test for yourselves. More data is always good.