There is a really simple solution to all this. Remove the 25% obliterate damage from Might, make it 15% frost damage which would be better than razorice since you dont have to stack it at all or take Frostscythe and put it on your main weapon to spread it or take Glacial Advance to spread it, then take that 25% Obliterate damage and put it into Obliteration as a passive. So the passive part of it would be “Obliterate does 25% increased damage” and then the active is the same as it is now when Pillar is used.
This is exactly why I said make the spec not the weapon. So say Breath is the best build, if you want to play 2h with breath doing Venthyr you can. If you want to go DW Deaths Due Obliteration for an obliterate build you can as well. For a bunch of people that want options what is in right now is pretty confining. We already have the covenant system that is restrictive, we dont need a spec that is as well just based on the weapon you have equipped.
No one is able to give a good answer as to why the weapons should be split. Why they should have different playstyles. The only thing I can think of is that they just hate DW and want nothing to do with it which if thats the case then their feedback is biased and shouldnt be listened to in the first place.
If these people arent for the spec, then what are they for?
A bit aside, but I find it amusing that people have such little faith in Blizzard that they don’t think they’re capable of balancing two weapon choices for a spec lmao.
Because it doesnt take a rocket scientist and a group of physicists to see what is going on.
Oh, and dont talk about being on the beta when the people on the beta/alpha are doing poor testing. No one tested to see if razorice did anything to KM rank 2 until might released for some odd reason. If people are just assuming things then they are no better than someone that isnt on the beta.
they probably just had more faith in modern blizzard than me, but since the pvp scaling fiasco in bfa you can’t really trust the numbers anymore without checking under the hood.
Its a testing phase, if you arent going to test things and are just going to run numbers then being on the beta doesnt matter. Its something new, its not like ghoul was returning so testing might not be necessary, its an entirely new thing.
So again, i dont want to hear this “you arent on the beta” when the people on the beta arent on the beta.
You want to defend your right to object and crusade against 2H and that’s fine. Anyone can have an opinion. But … not only are you not in the beta, you self admittedly don’t even play the game.
You can try to throw dirt on those in the beta for not testing the things you would like to see tested in the way you would prefer but you can’t even bother to play WoW
Big ol false narrative again. I mean, how many people stopped playing because 2h was remved yet their opinion is valid even though they actually dont play? Funny if they are on your side it doesnt matter, but if they suggest spec changes you just go after if they do the content you deem worthy.
Why is that? Is it actually because you hate everthing about frost aside from 2h? You have yet to actually address anything i have suggested and rather white knight people who havent played frost since WoD. They dont even know what the DW frost playstyle was let alone know it died with WoD.
How sad, how actually contribute instead of trying to discredit and silence that has failed time and time again.
Just remember, if someone is consistently making nonsensical arguments, there is an ignore function if you click on someone’s name in the forums and go to “View Activity” then select ignore in the top right.
Yes, you guys have to use the ignore feature because the reports for trolling are failing left and right.
Sorry, but im not trolling you guys just have no answers are arguments against what is being said. Like say the Might giving 15% frost damage and Obliteration getting the 25% Obliterate damage increase so its a spec choice not a weapon choice. Not a single thing against it other than “I hate DW and I dont want it to get anything, it should be removed”. Sooo where exactly is this coming from. I know you wont see this, but other people will.
You don’t have an argument, I’ve been reading threads for less than a month and you’re blatantly a concern troll who does nothing but bait post and play victim.
@Nicolas
Thanks man, forums will be so much more enjoyable now.
Really? Just made one in that post, and yet another person just ignoring it… why?
If the issue is DW having an extra rune (which is why might returned according to Blizzard) and they just increased the proc chance of KM, way over double that of DW by the way, why wouldnt you just give might 15% frost damage, and transfer that 25% Obliterate damage to a talent?
@Kelliste
If I dare say, you never come across as constructive when you post.
Just negative and pessimistic and that simply turns people off from what you say.
Seeing as people take that as you only ever saying “No that won’t work. Here’s why.” Over and over again without taking their idea and proposing how that could be made more viable. Well, people don’t wanna constantly be at all that negativity.
As for the subject at hand. Removing the numbers, these are definitely promising changes, it’s easy to see why people are getting behind this.
Numbers change. So your ‘10%’ is only valid until it gets changed, and with Blizz the numbers are often changed. And your ‘10%’ disappears if I use the likes of Razorice or Stoneskin. And personally, I would use Razorice or Stoneskin over Fallen Crusader.