Meme Specs: Relax, it's not your decision. Let it go đŸ„ł

Because there is a lot of misinformation being spread about the viability of meme specs and leading people to believe that, if they level elemental 1-60, they will be perfectly fine for raiding.

They won’t, and the people spreading this misinformation are setting up new players for disappointment.

No one is saying ‘don’t play meme specs’, what we are saying is, ‘if you play a meme spec, expect to have trouble getting into raids as that spec’

Whereas there are people who claim, for example, balance druids are fine. When their OOM issues are brought up, they literally claim that any guild that isn’t killing bosses in under 2 minutes (coincidentally about the time when moonkins go OOM) is a bad guild and players should look elsewhere.

The thing is that I love playing meme specs. Meme specs are fun. But they are terrible for raiding and at least I have no illusions about that.

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It does if they’re in your group, which is why they don’t get invited.

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I don’t know, we’re talking about meme specs but we should also be mentioning npc specs

I’d rather take someone playing a sub optimal spec that improved the experience rather than someone playing an optimal spec who was also a total ledge.

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This is so false is it’s sad.

I’d rather take someone playing an optimal spec well than someone playing a meme spec well. (more realistic choice people will have.)

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Then they are delusional, and that’s fine, its their prerogative.

edit: kinda like the kid that sat on the bench all game but still got a trophy and is told he did such a good job earning it.

Heres a shocking suggestion bear is great tanking and paladin is fine.

My old guild in vanilla ran paladins and bears through mc, aq20,aq40 and naxx all the way to kel.

We had one warrior who never tanked.

Get ready for raids of only fury warriors, holy priests, and 1 mage

Every other raid comp is a meme

/s

Not even true.

Vanilla raiding is the simplest and best designed for said specs.

Anyone who thinks otherwise never played vanilla or is going off bad pserver data.

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tell me about 4 horseman with 8 paladin tanks
 go ahead. let me know how that is supposed to work

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People can play whatever they want.

Though it’s also fair game to let people know that others are not obligated to group up with you, and that many specs have a stigma against them due to the fact that they don’t pull as much DPS.

People can say “I know, I don’t expect to be widely accepted”, but I bet we hear a ton of complaining all the same post-launch about “I’m a Ret Paladin. Why do I keep getting laughed at when asking to join groups?”

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Spriest isn’t a meme spec having 1 is actually optimal for groups. Non healer druid, pally, or shaman is for sure.

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why you gotta be so toxic bro?!?! /s

The reality is that you won’t always know who is good or bad until after you’ve invited them, but you will know what class and spec they are.

If someone messages you telling you they’re looking to DPS as a meme spec, it’s far more likely they’re the kind of player who doesn’t take their own performance all that seriously, because anyone who does likely wouldn’t be playing that spec in the first place.

You also have to consider that even the absolute best player in the world can only do so much with a meme spec, and even a mental invalid could do more on a proper spec.

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I know, I’m just the worst =P

I’d actually be curious to see how far a full raid of meme specs could get.

It’s just my plans involve getting to Naxx in a timely manner, so my raiding main will be build with that goal in mind.

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I don’t have a problem with these people as long as they are being realistic.

However, many of them come to forums to complain, or start guild drama or whatever because they will only play their pet spec. Playing what their class excels at is not good enough for them.

To be completely fair, I look on them about the same as I do a Warrior who is completely unwilling to tank for any reason. Picked the wrong class, my dude.

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what would you do for meme spec healers? just have them all dps spec but healing with normal healing gear? like ele shamans, shadow priests, ect? There are obvious meme dps/tanks but not so much healer. Unless you just stack all druid healers.

I have seen a total of 0 people do this.

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