Megathread: Dracthyr Permanent Visage Form for Evokers

I am 100% okay with it sure, but I’m sure they can sprout ethereal wings instead.

Like lore, logic and reason actually have a place within WOW.

The lore, logic, and reason is that you’re a draconic character with the physiology of a dragon. That physiology includes having large wings that allow flight abilities.

You throw that lore, logic, and reason out of the window when you have a character flying around like superman in a medieval fantasy game.

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You keep saying that, but I just don’t buy it. There are dozen of ways character can fly around. It’s it a easy and lazy justification blizzard has gone on record to defend their half-***ed design? Sure, that I will believe.

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Oh man, it’s almost like this is some magical fantasy world and not a Kingdom Come style realistic fiction.

Oh? Give me three ways a dragon-based class can fly around without a dragon form.

Do you have an example of a magical fantasy class that can fly around like superman?

Okay? Still no reason they can’t give us full visage form.

Blizzard is essentially just the DM of their own little universe, it’s whatever they want it to be and if the players want it, we’ll eventually get it and then you can come back to the forums complaining that evokers no longer make sense.

That’s racial lore which I could give two poops about. What I’m talking about is the purpose of a class, and the thematics expressed by said class. We have a dragon class based on WoW’s dragons, and that class’ concept relies on the character being a dragon to perform its abilities.

I think you’re just hung up on the idea that in the game only a dragon looking creature can preform dragon looking abilities and it’s kinda weird when you think about how many things in the game break that notion.

The lore, logic, and reason is that you’re a draconic character with the physiology of a dragon. That physiology includes having large wings that allow flight abilities.

You throw that lore, logic, and reason out of the window when you have a character flying around like superman in a medieval fantasy game.

You’re telling me you’ve never seen characters flying in game without wings? Did you know you can walk over an atomic recalibrator and be a Vulpera flying around shooting fire breath on stuff? Why would blizzard allow people to look like that doing dragon things?

Magic flight, transformation and jumping reeeeally far.

Again, are you talking about permanent visage form, or switching into a dracthyr when you’re doing certain abilities? You keep waffling on this point.

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Literally what’s the problem other than your opinion and Blizz’s arbitrary decision to force it on players?

The Evoker already does transformation. Jumping isn’t flying.

Can you provide an example of a RPG class performing the flying abilities like the Evoker does utilizing “magic flight”?

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I mean, have you ever played d&d? The only limit is your own imagination. Which seems rather limited in your case.

Add permanent visage form and add full transmog for the lizard forms
everyone wins that way

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I’d prefer the former but would take the latter if that’s all Blizz would do. Though the latter would mean way more work for Blizz making gear fit on Dracthyr.

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What things in the game break the notion of a dragon looking creature performing draconic abilities?

You’re telling me you’ve never seen characters flying in game without wings? Did you know you can walk over an atomic recalibrator and be a Vulpera flying around shooting fire breath on stuff? Why would blizzard allow people to look like that doing dragon things?

Yeah, that’s a silly toy that’s meant for player amusement. It isn’t supposed to be the basis for an actual class.

So you have no examples of such a class? Not surprising.

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Unfortunately, blizzard is lazy. Which is how we got saddled with the current crap.

What things in the game break the notion of a dragon looking creature performing draconic abilities?

You’re still stuck on dragons only and not thinking about the game as a whole. If I can drink a potion and turn into a skeleton (OMG MY ORGANS?!) then why can’t I be an elf looking humanoid that can dream breath on people?

Yeah, that’s a silly toy that’s meant for player amusement. It isn’t supposed to be the basis for an actual class.

You could argue since every new spell from the class is based on it’s draconic background that it should always be in dragon form, but it isn’t currently.

So you have no examples of such a class? Not surprising.

I’ll answer for them. The dragon aspects fly around in their visage forms as well as dragon forms. They do lots of stuff in their visage forms in the lore from what I recall.

I couldn’t care less how you define those words, I’ve been consistent, give us true visage form. You provided zero reasons as to why they shouldn’t give it to us, it’ll increase the classes popularity and the lore doesn’t matter, they can retcon anything they want at anytime because that’s what they do.

Again, a random item or toy created for laughs and giggles isn’t the basis for actual WoW classes. The purpose of the Evoker class is give players the ability to be a playable version of the dragon aspects. The purpose of the class is not to be some weirdo flying around the screen like superman shooting magic out of their mouths.

The main reason being that if you cease to make the dragon form mandatory, then the dragon abilities attached to the dragon form become optional. Then the class being exclusive to Dracthyr becomes optional and we start getting new lore to explain how a Tauren can be an Evoker. Before you know it we have more class homogenization and less class variety because you want to be a flying elf for some reason.

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I mean, right now we got some derpy gecko monstrosities doing it. And they were just made up last expansion. If there’s isn’t anything that fits, blizzard has already proved their willingness to pull something out of their bum. I just wish they would have tried a bit harder.