I guess I need to put /s because everything I wrote were straight up carbon copy and stereotypical responses.
Not an illegal drug dealer
Correct, both are drug dealers though and this is an important distinction; however a job can be “legal” and “illegal” and a job being illegal doesn’t exclude it from being a job even if you personally feel it doesn’t meet your personal definition of it compared to the verified definition.
Heck, for a history lesson pharmacist used to be called “druggist” or an individual who dispenses medicinal drugs.
Imagine trying to make money from your hardwork only to have children on an internet forum tell you you’re scummy?
And for the last time: the add-on functioned perfectly fine without his dataset as you were free to import your own. But that means doing work and most of you seem very resistant to that.
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K well the internet isn’t the underworld and he did this all out in the open. The reason I don’t like it personally and feel it was scummy is because stuff like this could cause blizzard to remove support of addons altogether. There is already a strong argument for making the game that way, as it would make encounters much simpler to balance without the existence of DBM or any other encounter addons.
stay classy, Gaming Community™
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If he wants to make addons and put a paywall behind it, he should make his own game.
Blizzard make it against TOS, they have everyright to do so. It’s their product. It may not be against the law, but it IS against their rules. Think of it this way… in America, It is NOT against the law to not wear a mask during a pandemic, HOWEVER… A business has the right to make it a rule that you MUST wear a mask before entering their business. If you refuse, you are asked to leave, and if you refuse, you will be charged for trespassing.
This is an example of that. If you make a paywall for an addon for WoW. You will be not allowed to play our products.
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I mean… if you make one tiny mistake, half the mythic+ puggers tell you to kys. Are any of us surprised? Half of this community is a joke and the other half who are good typically don’t show on the radar because… well they aren’t problematic.
Blizzard made the rules that state that you cant profit from addons on their game.
Players can already profit just by recording themselves playing.
They can get sponsors and participate in the WF race.
They can participate in competitive activities, win prize money, AND have sponsors.
Pretty sure the creator already makes money off of the game/players, so yeah it was scummy.
I liked how I read the description of an addon yesterday and the note was “no donations please. There are plenty of charities who could use the money” or something along those lines. How many players out there create addons without worrying about how much they are compensated?
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You choose the weirdest stuff to get hung up on.
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“Only through constant surveillance and strict punishments can we turn people into decent creatures.”
Okay, Stalin!
Yeah, you are right. IIRC you can’t even beg for donations according to rules.
I think that all this story is that developer just had an episode, when people instead of being grateful just sending boxes of crap.
addons like these need to be banned anyways.
I’m just curious…why isn’t it ok for him to try to profit from something he spends HIS personal time and skills on?
Whether or not he should have is a different question, but the idea that he should not monetarily benefit from his efforts is ridiculous.
I go to work everyday. I get paid to go to work everyday. That’s how it works. You trade your time/skills for money. If he wants to do it for free, then that’s fine, but none of us are entitled to his time/skills for free.
It’s against the TOS. No addon can have a paid function attached. And as the WoWhead article covered previously, people do not (or shouldn’t) create with the intent to profit off of other people (when discussing addons). And his stuff had been free for everyone and then he took it away from them to try and force them. It would be totally different if it had been that way off rip.
And creating an addon isn’t the same thing. Neither is streaming, which is what I do for money (not advertising). Streaming may be my “job” but I am paid because people enjoy my content and enjoy what I do. I am not paid because I am owed it. Creating addons is in the same vein as streaming. We create, and other people donate if they wish to support that which we create.
he did make threats of his own as well so include him too.
Creating addons is writing software. Are programmers not entitled to be compensated?
I understand your point about TOS, but that was not the point I was making. I was commenting on the outrage of “how dare this guy not provide this to me for free after he invested his skillset and time into it.”
When the vast majority of these people could never come close to creating their own version of MDT.
I didn’t say that. I said:
The important part here is, as I highlighted just a minute ago, this was not the original design off rip, nor was it conveyed. His entire point to suddenly locking the data away was reactionary to someone in his chat (from my understanding) and then he tried to make everyone else suffer as well by forcefully ripping something from them and trying to pigeonhole them.
That isn’t “I wish to create, and hope people compensate / donate / appreciate what I do”. That is “I have something you want, screw you, I’m gonna force you to do what I want by forcefully ripping away what I already gave you for free originally”. Karma’s a thing.
Being an addon creator, as I said, is like being a streamer. It’s gig work. We perform, or we create, or we make things because we want other people to like them. Getting money for it is just a bonus. Any time someone donates to my stream, I show them gratitude, thank them directly, and reinforce the fact I appreciate them. None of this was that.
You are trying to make one issue into two separate issues. Ignore the fact he programmed an addon.
He did an action that is allowed if he does not attach a price. He tried to attach a price. To most people that means it is now no longer allowed. Blizz did not officially say he had to remove the price, he changed his mind before they stepped in publicly.
The fact he programmed something or the fact most of the audience can’t do it is irrelevant. TOS suggests that is illegal so people got upset and called it illegal.
You said “it’s not right for him to take something away…”
It was his creation. He can do what he wants with it. Right v. Wrong insinuates a moral component. Morally, he can seek to profit off his product (setting aside TOS issues).
He should also be allowed to not let someone access his product who is being a dbag.
I think it’s cool to have the skillset to be a content creator, like streaming, but I doubt you would do it if you had no other source of income and you did not get income from doing it. That is just a fact of life.
I give you a lollipop for free. I tell you I made it. You voice appreciation for it. I now know you like this. I smack you in the back of the noodle and rip the lollipop out of your mouth and say “Want it back? 5 bucks.” That’s not right.
I had no income before streaming, and I didn’t go into it expecting an income. I coach my guys and girls for free, and teach them how to arena. I became a streamer because my men and women thought I would be able to make something work, and supported me after trying to motivate me into doing it for literal months. My stream grew, and people remained because of me, and now months later, I am getting paid monthly after streaming nightly every night, sick or not, because my viewers voice appreciation for what I do.
You are wrong.