I speculate that its going to happen quite a bit more. All its going to take is one person to open a ticket after a troll roll or discord communication passing on an item or even a complete accident and giving the loot to the wrong person.
You could be right.
But putting it in ingame text, like you mentioned doing above
totally derails the troll.
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Didn’t read the whole thread, but just putting this in. Transferring loot isn’t the same as deleting “stolen” loot.
any items determined to be scammed are simply deleted. While the real decisions in the other guy’s thread were made in discord, Blizzard can’t see, record, or rule on that and as such can only rule on what they see in chat. The guy who reported may be a bit whiny, but after promises are made in chat it is considered binding whether initially meant, or not. Therefore, it’s enforceable by GMs. Once that guy won the roll, it was his bindings or no ones. I’d have gotten it deleted too, probably.
In short, never EVER type a loot distribution or trade promise you don’t mean in blizz chat.
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As the top of that post suggests, this is for accidental miss loots or people winning and wanting to pass loot. NOT for violating agreed upon loot rules like rolling for loot in raid chat.
I still think that post was a doctored photo troll, and i will until i see a blue post on these forums admitting responsibility. But the simple fact is, if you say to roll for an item, then ninja it, you are breaking an agreement, not simply looting incorrectly.
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I’m late to the party here, can someone post a brief “what happened” without naming names or guilds?
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OK, so it was resolved and closed. Now you’re opening a new thread. This will not go well…
My situation was handled… But its happening to others. Blizzard should just stay out of loot issues entirely.
Please read my thread and comprehend it instead of trolling. I’m opening the thread to inform people of an apparent change in policy, as I’ve not ever seen another example of this happening prior to yesterday’s post.
Or kids shouldn’t hold ‘fake rolls’ after deciding on discord who’s actually getting the loot. Lol
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In the last day there has been two verified cases of Blizzard interfering in loot decisions made by a Master Looter.
In both cases, people were asked to roll on an item which was then given to a person who did not win the roll. Both cases had reasoning that was not discussed in game but was instead discussed on Discord.
Blizzard has said the following on loot distribution:
No one thus far has been able to provide me with a post or policy that indicates Blizzard will intervene in loot decisions, yet they’ve made plenty of posts implying that it’s up to the community to deal with “Loot Ninjas”.
No troll here. Just an observation. Blizzard generally doesn’t like it when new threads are opened about closed threads, they’ve punished it in the past.
Act like you or any guild you’ve been in has never had a hypothetical roll for an item. Or passed on a piece of gear in discord and it go somewhere else. Thats all it would take for you to get banned and the items removed.
Sure, people do mock rolls…after the item has been awarded. At least that has been my experience. We are all looking back with hindsight now, and I if you wanted to do a mock roll i would suggest doing it after the item is in the inventory of its intended player.
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I’m not making a thread to complain about a solved and closed case. I’m bringing up that solved and closed case because it’s necessary in order to make the point I’m making.
Blizzard as of yesterday appears to be getting involved in Master Loot cases when they previously stated they would not be getting involved and that it was up to the community to handle “Loot Ninjas” on their own.
I used to think your posts were valuable.
I don’t post for your approval. I say what I think without trying to appeal to anyone in particular. In this case I was simply making an observation that these kind of posts tend to not go well but good luck on it!
Exactly.
We have items drop and people roll and then determine they don’t want the item. Eye of Sulfuras is a good example of someone changing their mind after being told that it’s going to cost them 5,000 gold to make the hammer.
Could that person then open a ticket and get our Master Looter suspended if they felt like it? Blizzard should not be intervening in Master Looter decisions.
Master Looter, it says it right in the name.
And that’s where the grey area is though, and being that different people perceive the value differently, the policy should always be the dictating factor.
Yes, thank you for nothing, please move on and report the thread if you think it’s violating rules.
I don’t disagree. It would be nice to have it written in black-and-white unambiguously. However, i think Blizzard left things ambiguous on purpose just so these kind of threads trying to rule-lawyer everything to death don’t exist.
In the end, the only policy that actually matters is that Blizzard can do what ever they want for any reason they want.
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