Master loot

I’m very glad master loot is gone for good.
Master loot not being there has helped a lot of players keep the item they wanted rather than being forced to trade.

Now just buff item drops a little bit more and we gg

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I do miss need or greed though. felt more exciting for some reason to see an item pop up that you need and have to roll for it. but thats just me.

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A welcome change of bait topic!

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We enjoy needing on things we can’t use and getting flamed around here :pensive::broken_heart:

It’s been amazing not having ML honestly. If you just up the gear drops in raids it would be really good

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I could go both ways on it.

If it’s a guild, and everyone agrees to it I don’t see the harm.
If they just got rid of trade restrictions I think it would be the best of both worlds.

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If restrictions go guild leaders would threaten to kick if item isn’t traded

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But if it’s master loot, it would just drop for the master looter, so no trading of an individual player’s gear to someone else would be needed.

IDK we used DKP back when I raided. It wasn’t perfect but it worked fine, and the auctions of gear were fun!

there is a small percentage of guilds for whom master loot works. Wanna be prog guilds try to mimicking this however have no idea what to do so they end up just playing favourites. Ion stated this in an interview.

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Guilds that didn’t plan to do mythic raiding rarely used master loot after personal loot became a thing. It wasn’t worth the trouble trying to set up proper distribution of loot.

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That’s not true majority used ML which is why it was removed as per interview with Ian

If you were a hunter you could pretty much need everything.

In a way Personal Loot is Master Loot… You are the Master of your Loot!

Personal loot was ideal for pugging. People who are lower skill level who aren’t in a guild. Perfect for them. It has no business in a full guild mythic raiding group. If you’re against it and you are the former you have no business trying to keep it away from the latter.

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Unless it’s a 5 item level upgrade and you really wanna help your friends, but Blizzard tells you no. :roll_eyes:

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It doesn’t take long to get the item level necessary to trade gear.

Not being able to trade gear for the first few weeks didn’t really stop your guild progression to this point.

The thing is any guild that’s worth being in, and who is progressing at a decent level/pace, probably won’t have a GM who acts this way. And if you somehow find yourself in such a guild with such a GM, then it shouldn’t take a threat of a kick to let you know that you need to get out :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t have strong opinions either way about master loot vs personal loot, but for the love of all that is good don’t stick around in guilds like that.

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Mythic guilds that get CE are small percentage of players. They get what we give them. the whole reason ml is gone is because of so many wannabe mythic raiding guilds using ML and denying trials gear.

There was no ML this tiers people still got CE. ML is not needed it’s a toxic system

Should come back with 100% full guild groups. It’s irrational to knee cap good but not great progression guilds because pug leaders were “mean.” If you join a guild and agree to these rules that’s what you’ve done. You’re also free to leave at any time if you stop agreeing with the rules. Guilds like limit will just have 48488484 splits so it didn’t do anything but screw good but not great mythic guilds.

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Let me guess. Aotc pug hero?