Those guilds are on the rare end and we shouldn’t have systems to satisfy rare guilds
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Most people don’t raid at all. Anything above lfr is “rare” so if we’re worried about not catering to that then we should just remove everything above lfr. Right?
don’t give him ideas
By that logic no dungeons should exist above heroic either. If were keeping it fair.
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No I did it with a guild and it was fine without ML.
The issue is ML creates more problems than it solves. Until this problems go away blizz is not bringing back ML. They said in an interview it’s gone for good. Which I’m really happy about
You’re Mr big brain from the other thread that is convinced io is an indicator of whether someone is horrible or not. So excuse me for just 
at anything you have to say about what is good or not for the game.
Well blizz seems to agree with my view points so I’m happy.
Ur the one that seems salty mr lfr alt.
Maybe look in the mirror?
Blizz agrees with whiners most of the time. If they did what was good for the game mythic+ wouldn’t exist at all. Gatekeep harder. You don’t realize how terrible, as in you’re a huge baddie you seem, to be pro io but anti ML. Just announce to the world how you only care about yourself getting loot and only if you find others who can carry you. Do go on.
io has nothing to do with ML mr lfr alt.
Io is more about hard work and skill ML is about loot systems. Do you understand the difference Mr LFR Alt
You can buy io. You can’t buy your way into a progression ML mythic guild. At any point in the games history.
U can buy gear by buying a mythic carry with loot funnel. Why would u need a progression guild if ur going to buy gear.
Guilds are still getting CE without ML.
Also very easy to tell when someone has bought a carry in IO so it’s a non issues
the fact you’re not understanding that any group of idiots can sell +14s but almost no one could do what you admitted yourself was a tiny minority was able to do. the fact that your terrible self benefits from lack of master loot but it screws over actually elite (not elitist) players just shows your selfishness. it didn’t harm you in any way. even in legion you had to have a 80% or something guild group to use it. at that point if you were against it you wanted to be carried by people who worked together as a group without having to deal with sharing loot with them.
and no. you can search the forums and see people tell you how to game io to seem like you grinded it but you didn’t actually.
i’m like 6 days from never playing again. so report me all you want. it won’t matter. my sub is gone, and so am i. but i will tell you this. people like you. selfish, entitled, delusionally overconfident trolls- you’re what’s killing the game. not mythic raiders. and you’re all almost exclusively mythic+ players. that is why people say the MDI is ruining the game. because people like you exist.
and i’m proud of you for not spouting out lfr alt like you have tourettes, for an entire post.
Mythic raiding does not need master loot as proven by this tier. elites are a very small percentage of players and shouldn’t be catered to at the expense of the majority of the players.
Io has nothing to do with this conversation.
You seem upset because ur not getting what u want. Maybe this game isn’t for you so quitting seems like a good choice for you which you have made.
it doesn’t harm me for it to exist. it didn’t harm you either. but you’re glad something is gone because why? it existing hurt your fee fees? i am not a good -player. but i’m sick of actually good players getting screwed because of trash like you. not just you but every single “mythic+ should give out loot like candy and have no lock out, raiding is dead” idiot that posts on these forums. you are what are driving us away. and when you’re all that’s left. well. gg. because you killed the game.
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I enjoy raiding more than mythic plus .
Yes it would benefit the top guilds but it will damage semi hardcore players way more. Until that damaging aspect can go away there is no place for it in the game.
You would need a solution to this. With ML most guilds doing raiding will have a 2 week trial which results in trial raiders not getting any loot for 2 weeks in an already loot starved expansion. Suppose they fail their trial. Now they have to apply to another guild and compete without any gear upgrades from raids. And if it’s someone who doesn’t do pluses they are even in a worse position because they will find it hard to get into other guilds because they are now 2 weeks behind in loot.
This was a huge enough issue for their lead class design to bring it up on stream and explain to everyone why they were not bringing back ml
Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8.
if you had no guild you’d be getting no loot. i am not in a raiding guild and guess what. i have no raid loot. it’s almost like… when you’re part of a team you put the team first and not your own loot drops. if a trial got a .1% drop rate trinket would that be fair at all to the people who have been in the guild all along? especially since they could just leave the guild to do it to a different one? no. the group is more important than any individual member. you’re not “behind” in a group context. you’d all get loot eventually. the issue is that entitled spoiled brats care more about their own gear vs working together to kill bosses.
That’s a weird take. How does mythic plus negatively impact the game?
Any person who contributes to a boss kill deserves an equal chance at loot. Not more not less. Being on trial should have no impact on that. This is the issue blizzard had with it.
the entire point of the game is to kill the biggest bad. that is never a dungeon boss. ever. it is a mythic raid boss (since it’s existed) you used to get gear to kill the last boss and that was you beating the game for tier, or the expansion. now? no one even cares about the raid at all anymore or story or anything else. it’s constant 24/7 forum whining about loot/ilevel/drop rate. that wasn’t a thing to this level before mythic+ let you spam tf to get fully mythic raid tf in a week or two. the lack of the cap made people feel like anything else was pointless. raiders hated being forced to do it but after the joke that was EN they couldn’t just not balance around it. low level dungeons are full of abusive people who treat wc like a +15. essentially most things that are currently really wrong with the game are entirely because of mythic+.