Massive buffs to BM Hunter

You have NOOOOO BUSINESS critiqueing anyone elses guild or dps lol

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You do realize you linked multiple fights that arent single target where BM is just behind other specs.

Most hunters will be swapping between all three specs based on the fight.

I am also not saying BM couldnt use some buffs but its not the end of the world like some hunters who have 50% uptime on barbed stacks are saying.

It’s not personal, it’s math. If BM is winning your raid, something is wrong with your raid.

If your Porsche is losing to Corollas, something is wrong with your car.

You just have a garbage answer ready for everything, don’t you?

If that was true, why would anyone switch to BM for those fights when MM and SV are both far above BM in every type of fight? You’re so desperate to not be wrong, you just keep blowing off everything that counters your argument.

Its not garbage when its true.

The two single target fights Marks and Survival are behind BM.

Halondrus

Skolex

The gap on Skolex isnt as big but its still on top. Survival and MM get gapped on Halondrus

@Snozzola. I swear, both you and Lego work so hard at misdirection and obfuscation, it’s no wonder people just give up and walk away. Case in point: you claim BM isn’t bad because “On my mythic skolex kill both bm hunters were in the top 5”, but then it is pointed out empirically that for that to happen 16 other specs had to massively underperform. You immediately pivot the argument to the fact bm isn’t bad because it is the top hunter spec in the two single target fights in SotFO. What you ignore completely however is the fact that despite being the top hunter spec in these fights it is still bottom tier relative to 16 other classes/specs. Worse yet, you fail to acknowledge that in the remaining multitarget fights, the other two hunter specs move up to the top of the dps charts while Bm Hunter falls to the very bottom. Thus the net effect for BM hunters is to be sub median on single target fights and absolutely abysmal on the remaining multitarget fights. But i am sure none of this will matter, because you will pivot either to "get gud/L2P’ or attack the person pointing out your abject fallacies on some other basic level. I personally will be setting up a betting pool shortly to predict your next pithy response.

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You do realize I have repeatedly said that BM can use some buffs but its not as bad as some hunters are making it out to be.

See above.

I ignore them because BM is a single target dps spec. MM and Survival are multi target specs so they SHOULD beat BM on those style fights.

Not every spec is going to be viable all the time

@Snozzie And there we have it folks. Right there. "You do realize I have repeatedly said that BM can use some buffs but its not as bad as some hunters are making it out to be.’ Followed up by “I ignore them because BM is a single target dps spec. MM and Survival are multi target specs so they SHOULD beat BM on those style fights.” and “Not every spec is going to be viable all the time.” i am assuming you see the fallacy here Snozz, I mean you have to right. You can’t say ‘Bm isn’t bad’ and then follow it up with qualifiers that make no objective sense. First, if Bm is designed to be the pre-eminent single target spec, then why are we SUB MEDIAN on the two single target fights. Second, if not every spec is going to be viable, why have multispecs to begin with. And last, what are you objective facts that support anything you say about the state of BM hunters because sadly all you have come up with is “I do x in M+ so it must be good” or “Bm hunters in MY raid were top 5.”

You are welcome to your opinion.

When you cant realize that just because BM does need some buffs its not unplayable.

The main issue is that MM and survival 4 set is very strong and BMs is not.

I literally linked logs.

Instead of complaining about how bad BM is focus on improving your BM play

I don’t think it’s unplayable at all. Unfortunately, a lot of people in the game see BM at the bottom and don’t want to invite them to anything. I have 271 ilvl, 4 pc and high parses, but I still spend a couple hours a day being passed over for raid and M+ groups. So, while I think I’m perfectly capable of pulling my weight in these groups, those looking to fill groups overwhelmingly only care about finding the strongest specs to carry them to victory.

BM is in need of a tier overhaul and some talents adjusted/fixed. That doesn’t seem to be on the table for Blizzard though.

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You prattled on about overall damage from a mythic + details log and never accounted for the fact there were 21 deaths in the run. You have no business ever speaking about data ever again.

And Bullet is the prime example of someone who uses logs from levels of play they will never reach as justification for poor play. Yes, BM could use a bump. BM’s max achievable output has nothing to do with him failing simple mechanics of the class.

Why do the apologists keep making it about me?

I don’t need to be good at soccer to recognize that Messi is an amazing player.

I also don’t need to be good at BM to recognize that the the spec is incredibly undertuned and desperately needs to be brought up to par.

It’s alllllll in the data, not in my play.

Because you’re wrong. It’s not “incredibly undertuned”. You not being good at BM shows your lack of understanding this.

You’re not understanding the data you are linking.

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All the keyboard Legend in their own mind warriors seem to forget there are other reasons beside L2P and Get Gud for what they consider as personal under-performance.

Some have less than optimal Internet availability as well as other limiting factors. On a good day my Ping is 25-40ms with home and world latency right around 85ms I get frequent lag spikes to 150 ms and higher. All these limiting factors are detrimental to Frenzy stack maintenance. In my case as I have mentioned before At 65rs of age after 35yrs working outdoors with temperatures ranging from +40 to -40c age and arthritis is just another limiting factor. I play other classes as well non of them as well as I play BM

So called Easy specs like BM are nice for people with limitations like myself. Not so much though when the penalty for mistakes is this high. I don’t need to top charts I just want to do my share and not be the Carry person.

My constant belief is that the performance of all classes and specs should be in range of no more than 5% on the overall spread.

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So you want buffed so that when you play like crap you still do good damage. The problem with this is BM becomes OP when played by better players. You not being able to play well for whatever reason is not a good excuse to balance a class.

Ahahahahaaa
Wait, youre being serious? Let me laught even harder.
BWAHAAHAHAHAHHAAA

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Did you read what I was responding to? Or is being a toddler your modus operandi? I was responding to a very specific scenario wherein the person wants to be able to play bad and do top tier damage, which would mean someone playing well would be inevitably overtuned. Your kneejerk reaction says a lot about why you’re considered a laughing stock.

That’s not what he said


He wants all classes/specs to be tuned within a reasonable margain. Specifically, within 5% of one another.

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Point to anytime in any mmo where dps was within 5% for all specs and/or classes. Go on, I’ll wait


Or you can just admit, while idealistic, this is never going to happen.

BM needs a 15% buff, and even then it would be well behind.

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