Marksmanship Hunter 11.1 DO NOT TAKE AWAY MY PET!

MM is currently benefiting from a bug that is landing them high up in the charts. It has a fix in the works.

I think people like yourself would not be so vocally trying to quell this by telling people we need to ā€œshut up and get used to itā€ if it were not quite possible that the decision WILL be reversed at some point.

I think they are taking something from a much larger group to give it to a small but quite vocal group. We will just have to wait and see. The number of posts Iā€™ve seen from people, and the responses, have been a very large number of people complaining, and a smaller group of people responding numerous times to tell them to shut up. Not very scientific I know, but if Iā€™m right, this can and likely will be reversed. Weā€™ll just have to wait and see.

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ā€œComplaining more isnā€™t going to do you any good unless it does.ā€

:thinking:

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im sure people will be able to tank just fine without a pet like every other spec, just use your cc and take advantage of your mastery just letting you hit stuff from a mile away. never leave home without your health pots either, they are immensely useful in all levels of content

They will have one singular pet an eagle. But i do agree the change is a bit drastic just because new players cant grasp the concept that when doing mythic + or raids as a mm should probably put the pet away to actually contribute. But you know cant lead a horse to water(guides). These days it seems so just gotta dumb it down for them.

Apparrently they are reworking some other spec entirely as well when it comes to druid so it would seem extreme dumbed down specs are going to be the future of wow.

The eagle is not going to be a pet. It will only be a special effect for a spell. Like casting a buff, but instead of sparkles or glowing lines an eagle will appear and drop poop on them or something. It wonā€™t be persistent and probably isnā€™t even tangible.

That would be a mistake if they didnt make it a consistent thing honestly. So marksman gets pets taken away because too many new players cry there dps sucks when using pets so blizz has to force them to understand the spec basically.

itā€™s not new players complaining, itā€™s people in dungeons/m+ complaining because you are expected to take lone wolf since it is a 5% damage increase. this means you will have to summon your pet, cast blood lust, and then spend a few seconds standing around because you lose that 5% from lone wolf. now theyā€™re really cementing lone wolf as its identity since itā€™s what most people use besides people who spend more time yapping in trade chat than playing

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In that case hopefully they find a way to give marksman a lust skill.

thatā€™s what this rework is doing lol mm gets lust baselined

This isnā€™t true. People who solo use their pet all the time. I play mostly delves, on a bunch of characters, not just my hunter. And I use the pet on my MM hunter all the time. This is taking something AWAY from people doing small groups and solo content, and giving it to the high end raid/M+ crowd. All so that things can be a little more convenient for them.

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I think you may have a good point here, after all they listen to PVP players all the time and statistics Iā€™ve seen seem to show that thatā€™s about 10% or less of the player base. So, vocal minorities do seem to get heardā€¦likely ignored, but heard.

There are many areas where CC and mobility are not possible. Elites and elite rares are often immune to CC entirely, and hit hard enough that you will die unless you significantly outgear the content.

Unless they want to double MM hunter to rival that of tanksā€¦

Pretty sure my pet does around 5% of my damage at least when I summon it. So if I lose around 5% personal DPS, but gain 5% from my petā€¦ how much DPS have I lost?

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I do use my pet. Itā€™s part of the character(s) I made.

Just because itā€™s more optimal to play without a pet doesnā€™t mean everyone takes Lone Wolf. Iā€™m not pushing hard content on my hunter, Iā€™m playing casually with friends or playing solo. The mentality of there being only one way to play MM is exhausting and just a player creativity killer.

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Raid and M+ people get a lot more attention because they are the proverbial ā€œcheap dateā€. If you have a group of 10-20 people that you can keep busy for several months running the same piece of content over and over ad nausium they are a preferred customer.

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instead of prothal they should call you professional victim

Valid. Iā€™ve already come to the conclusion that those for or against the removal of MM hunter pets cannot and will not be able to agree, and no amount of shouting or hand wringing is changing anyoneā€™s mind anytime soon. The points of view are just inherently different. Optimal gameplay vs what Iā€™d call ā€˜having funā€™ but Iā€™m sure someone has some other clever label theyā€™d care to sardonically add.

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Or, maybe I am rubber and you are GLUE! What you say bounces off me and sticks on YOU!

See I can play the childish name calling too. Itā€™s pretty easy.

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He doesnt.

If anything is certain over these multiple hunter threads is that Prothal has zero clue what hes talking about