I parsed my best on 7/7 bosses yesterday 97% easy on Gelihast while pulling threat and having to move away moving over to Marksman and using another hunter to give AOTL. Master Marksman does a great job at maintaining mana and giving extra crit chance.
Master Marksman Effect Increases your critical strike chance by 5%, and reduces the Mana cost of all your Shot abilities by 25%.
Iâm aware of what it does.
The 25% mana cost reduction is entirely irrelevant if you have sub 2 minute clear times on bosses (you should).
5% extra crit chance doesnât offset 10% extra stats
With bis gear the extra 10% stats is better.
Master marksman is more fun as it allows a much more active playstyle, but the raw stats do more for you.
Getting lucky on crits to have good parses is not a consistent thing.
Also wdym by this? What were your parses?
Mind linking your 97% geli?
Taking three fourths of someoneâs meal and then giving them back the lumpy mashed potatoes.
look up FrostmoĂźrne since bliz doesnât want to let me post links also remember I pulled on 4/7 bosses and could of easily done better if i brought full consumes and mana pots. I can only improve from here. https://vanilla.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/wild-growth/frostmoĂźrne
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seeing the parse numbers to get 97-99 I can easily see myself getting 95-99 on all bosses with comsumes and proper raid comp.
Looking at your geli logs, you crit an absolute insane amount. Comparing your 97 Geli to your next highest which was 92 (and using BM runes looks like):
Your auto shot crit 29.4% of the time versus 6.5%.
Your chimera shot crit 45.5% of the time
Your pet crit 25.2% of the time versus 16.7%
Your multi shot crit 20% of the time versus 28.6% (a bit lower here)
Of course youâre going to parse well with those absolute bonker crit %'s
For context: the top parsing hunter on Geli right now crit 16.7% of his autos versus your 29.4%, had 0% multi shot crit versus your 20%, though did have 31.8% pet crit versus your 25.2%
If you were BM specced that very well could have been a #1 parse with those crit numbers, or at minimum a 99
Could my Runes that add 5% flat crit and another 10% Shot Crit and near full bis
My crit chance is 17.78% without any buffs or WB right now. WB adds another 2% 19.78 and all raid buffs brings that into an easy 20-25% add another 10% to shot crit is 30-35% shot crit easy without Weapon stone that could add another 2% and scrolls that could add another .5%.
So yes crit was high but not impossible. Pet gets its Crit from hunter so it was normal.
I will get some friends online to buff me to see what the crit % is with buffs and no WB. Later today.
Actually fury warrior is the new meta. Has been new for almost a quarter century.
Also with his gear having lion would have resulted in 17 more agility. At lvl 25 i think that is close to 2% crit? I dont know the lvl 25 breakdown of it. And if he had agi scroll on thats 18 agi instead of 17.
So really MM is only giving him about 3% more crit over lion. And lion gives 10% more total mana. So that 25% reduced mana cost is closer to 15%.
But lion gives you and your pet more raw damage as well. So those crits do more with lion and the non crits do more.
With your amount of agi, Lion should add around 2% total crit (I have slightly worse gear than you and baseline Lion takes me from 13.24 to 14.94, which would be ~14.09 just factoring in 10% instead of 20%). MM brings me up to 18.24 - meaning I gain 4.15% crit running MM over Lion.
Which doesnât affect Auto shot, and realistically unless youâre making healers adjust will likely only be active for like ~40% of your BFD raid
Weapon stone adds Hit, not crit.
Agi scroll II is only +1 agi over elixir, and strength scroll doesnât give you ranged crit, so this isnât correct.
Realistically, youâll probably be at about 22-23% if that crit chance with full buffs (32-33% for your shot abilities if you have sniper training active), which is still 7-12% under what you actually parsed.
My point is: you had a very good RNG kill, with near completely BiS gear, and still only parsed a 97. Not trying to disparage your parse (hell my Geli is only 90, though most of my others are 95-98) Iâm just saying that outside of extremely niche situations MM just isnât better.
Itâs roughly 16 agi per 1% crit with 20% Lion. Idk math for anything outside of that though.
Either way, going MM over HotL is only really giving you 4% extra crit chance - and you lose out on the int (which brings your mana pool to a level where you donât need to mana pot for sub 1:40 min clears)
The agi to crit is 20 Agi to crit classic was always 20 AGi to crit they didnât implement level adjustments till TBC. I will be continuing this build till I get the hang of it. My guild doesnât get 1:40 min clears on bosses yet because most are casual. I run out of mana on most bosses and donât have a mana pot need to get some to increase dps with other consumes. Agi scroll is 9Agi and the potion i have been bringing is 4agi Scroll of Agility II is 9AGi so .25 crit over the potion i bring. Like i said if you have another hunter with HotL the extra 10% stats is not worth it atm 20% is worth it.
Download the addon RatingBuster Classic. Itâll show you exact percentages. Crit scaling is different at this level versus 60 (this is not a TBC thing). At 60 itâs roughly 52 agi per crit, not 20. For example, with 20% Lion on 9 agi = 0.56% crit, (because itâs really giving ~11 agi) whereas when I take lion off 9 agi = 0.46% crit.
I donât see how you can argue what is the best spec when you say stuff like this though. Besides - the tens of thousands of logs on WCL over the past day donât agree with you.
Could this be the result of gear making the hunter outscale their pets with BfD gear?
It was going to eventually happen, though not until p2.
But with all the nerfs it came early and hunters will be that much worse in future phases because of it.
So theyâll be 5th then. Not great, not awful. Thats fine. They were very obnoxious in pvp so still being near the top after nerfs is a good thing.
Sod isnt going to just default to vanilla scaling now. Youre getting new runes next phase, one of them may cause you to become the best scaling class in the game. I instantly throw out any argument that forgets new runes are coming
Just downloaded you add-on doesnât say anything different then Extended Character stats. Yet again it is 20 Agi per crit if you need me to log onto my lvl 60 warrior to show you I can Or you could just look at every wow classic agi to crit website and see for yourself.