Man I really wanted to go to Warcraftlogs and show that MW are keeping up even in mythic raids.
I found that they are behind most everyone else 1-2k hps on almost every fight lol.
I’m still not changing.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26/#dataset=95&metric=hps&difficulty=4
Super good in heroic raiding right now. This is balanced “mostly”
Monks are good but we just can’t cast a lot of our healing spells. If we get mana reductions to spells that will only result in our spells having lower healing amounts.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/26/#dataset=95&metric=hps
Mythic raiding disc is far ahead but only because that is where disc IS HUGE! DISC priest is bonkers for mythic raiding and always will be.
You guys should of seen MW in BFA. In 8.3 MW was something close to 20% less healing then others
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Well I ran that m+10 sanguine depths. We went over timer by 15ish minutes.
The hardest part was the pack after the third boss. We wiped once on the gauntlet and three times on final boss. It was tough but I definitely think it was more so bc ilvl, storming and all the other crap in the right corridors than mana issues.
The problem is you are looking at one side of mistweaver, we are far behind in arena.
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PVP is a joke in current game. Did you people see how most of the classes are doing in arena? It is so bad right now. This is why i never worry about PVP.
I get where you’re coming from mate, but there are those of us that do, haha. Like I said at the start of this post, I mainly made this for PVP. And in PVE yes comparably we are fine. BUT we still lack significantly when compared to other healers in mythic progress and in mythic plus.
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You might not worry about PvP but its a part of the game a lot of people actively participate in. Some people only Sub for PvP, MW is almost extinct in arena at this point. you can play perfectly and OOM, one miss play and you die in an DR stun with a precasted fort brew. Mistweaver might be performing well in raid with Yu’lon under the conditions you’re being fed innervates during the window. But outside of coordinated PvE that is less than likely to happen. It’s no excuse to disregard the rest of the spec because one ability performs well in a forced situation. Mana is a problem, survivability is a problem, lack of damage is a problem. All of the borrowed power systems that really made monks toolkit work show more than ever right now, and that’s something blizz needs to address before the stigma of Mistweaver being straight booty cheeks sticks with us for the rest of the expansion.
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Another week, another reset, another ignored and obvious opportunity to give this spec some help. Not sure why I still play this game.
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don’t worry mate, itl happen we just need to stay strong keep playing to the best of our abilities and wait, this is why we have this support group XD
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At this point if nothing gets addressed, we’ve got until we unlock our 3rd soulbind and unlock all the conduit tree, when our class is “Finished” by design so to speak. if the conduits + perks make no difference, then i’m sure most people will either roll with WW or just bench their monk all together. I never wanted monk to be buffed to the point of being broken. I just want my partners of 4+ years in arena to want to actually queue with me. I had to resort to LFG to find someone to play with because MW is too unreliable that no one want’s to play with us if they actually have options. I just want monk to be viable again. I’m enjoying the fast paced meta for the most part, but dying in a DR stun with dampen harm + fort brew really does suck. having to overlap so many CD’s just to have a chance at surviving is terrible. having to use battlemaster to buff cocoon to a point it doesnt get popped in 2 globals… the list goes on… just make monk playable in todays meta and i’ll be happy.
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If blizzard wanted to fix PVP they would do an actual pvp patch on the beta. I think through the whole beta you had 1 patch with PVP changes. I’m sorry to say, but if you wanna do good in pvp I suggest playing the FOTM class. 8.3 was MW / Hpally for PVP. You all missed it.
And at that the pvp changes in that patch was pathetic. PVP balance this expac is so bad. There’s not even words to describe it.
As far as i remember it was monk changes coming soon, and then nothing till a few days before release making the legendaries actually work. Beta was an actual joke at this point in terms of testing anything
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Why do you people think I made the two biggest monk threads for the beta! I care about monk but i also realize Blizzard don’t care about PVP.
Our PVE is freaking amazing atm. Our healing in PVE is great. Mythic+ is a lil shady but not the end of the world. ENJOY the pve balance right now. This is as good as it gets.
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Im not stating you don’t care about monk’s I’m EU and our forums are dead so i have to chime in here. For the most part blizzard doesn’t care about PvP and I will agree. But the state of mistweaver for pvp has never been this bad even with us always scraping the barrel till end of exp.
The lack of all the borrowed power that isn’t made up with in the slightest with buggy legendaries (Escape from reality and eminence) clouded focus i still oom vs every other healer using mana tea and TfT vivify’s for the free healing. I wouldn’t go as far as to say our PvE is amazing as you’ve stated. M+ is already showing the monk is bad stigma with being declined for keys that you did last week. People don’t want to have to wait for us to drink and the changes to mana regen when drinking probably hurt us the most out of the rest of healers right now. M+ Revival is more of a mass dispell than anything else at this point. Yu’lon doesn’t get anywhere near the pump that it does in raid’s since unoptimal comp is bound to happen the majority of the time if doing random keys. Chi ji losing statue + yu’lon even if it isn’t as strong of a CD is still a loss. fistweaving legendary not being smart heal’s that would help our mana problems in PvE doesn’t help either. PvE is better than it has been. But mistweaver still need’s help to get out of the dumpster fire. Its already a sketchy pick to take us over any other healer, don’t give people more of a reason to do so.
I never get declined for mythic+. I even get into pug heroic denathrius. I don’t think its that bad tbh in pve.
PVP is a whole diff problem. I’ve already stated that multiple classes are terrible in arena and a few are FOTM. This is the nature of the game. This is how it goes. Our mythic+ wasn’t even that good in 8.3.
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I can’t speak for NA as I don’t play here, but EU the stigma for monks is already feeling like BFA enhancement shamans. Our M+ wasn’t bad for first season of M+ in bfa either. and we were still bottom of the barrel healer. But it was far more managable than now, I feel I OOM more now than i did with 25% mana cost WoTC from conflict and strife.
Yeah mana is a lil harsh. I suggest using vivify a lot more atm. Use Mana Tea for when u need to envelope spam with Yu’lon. Usually it works out. Tear of Morning is pretty big as well. ToM tends to be my fav because ATotM isn’t smart enough.
WISH ATotM was smart!!! BUT it would get 100% nerfed.
I’m still in the means of getting ToM since i mainly pvp it wasnt at the top of my list but i do PvE with friends so it is on my priority list of things to get. Im using TfT for vivifies any time that its up, mana tea during intense windows that i need to use EnVM and Yu’lon, Just pumping our whole mana tea window with yu’lon feels great in terms of HPS, i cant complain at all about that. But i feel that is the only thing we excel at all. Im not gonna bother with ATotM unless they change to smart heal because it just seems like a waste.
I just know deep down my guild and arena partners would prefer if i rerolled to Pala/Shaman that brings so much more to the team.
GO DISC if u wanna big BIG in pvp and Mythic raiding. ITS HUGE ATM. Shaman is good as well, but DISC is so amazing. You can never go wrong with disc priest and it plays like monk kind of.
I like being a monk, I shouldn’t be forced to play meta just to compete. I just want to be able to be relevant not be overpowered.
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