Cool… how long has mythic raid existed?
Is this a relevant/real question or do you really not know/think its a gotcha when I say that Siege isn’t 18 years old.
cause, it’s not.
You’re either a very invested troll… or just someone who doesn’t have the ability to think about things from someone else’s perspective even if it disagrees with what you’ve already made up your mind about. The fact that I keep replying to you says you have good troll skills. Obviously nobody is changing your mind here because you’re not listening.
Fair point, I forgot that Blizzard doesn’t evolve their design philosophies, like how flex wasn’t a thing at all for a long time and then it was, or we didn’t even have mythic raiding and then we did. Yeah mb in thinking that Blizzard can’t ever add new things and everything has to stay the same forever.
You just not gonna answer or?
Still haven’t acknowledged a single point we’ve made. So why would I continue to discuss the issue at hand with you?
This isn’t what we are even talking about lol, now you’re just going in circles
Sure it is. You think because they’ve said it can’t be done in the past that it’s not something they can work on and evolve. Things change. Many things exist in the game now that were originally thought to be impossible.
No disagreement there, and that’s on me for feeding the troll.
Yeah, it’s already doing a good job of digging its own grave as a form of content without outside assistance. Too high of an attrition rate relative to the capable people engaging in it. Why would I want to go back to that environment when I can do keys and chill with a couple of friends in Discord?
One tier of that was enough for me, and that was just getting CE, lol.
I mean no, I’ve literally played the content. Have you? Judging by the two characters I did find for you, you don’t to the level or regularity you act like you do.
You’ve just described Heroic Raiding. The only difference being, “Some Mythic Mechanics are added”.
I’m not gonna lie, if Black Rock Depths Heroic (which was overtuned when it first came out) is any indication this isn’t something worth pursuing.
BRD Heroic is pretty much what hou described. A more difficult flex version of the raid, that was above Nerub’Ar Palace Heroic, that only handed out heroic gear. Participation numbers for that are abysmal.
I don’t think the player base has any interest in doing harder group content that they’re not adequately rewarded for.
Than you have additional venues for that. You can all join a guild still working towards CE. You can do weekly PUGs of the first 4 Bosses. You can push deeper into M+.
The Mythic-Flex idea either doesn’t work based on past experiences with raid tiers (Cata & MoP 10 v 25 Heroic) or your plan is to give players almost nothing in terms of a reward for overcoming some very difficult and complex encounters (Which again has usually been met with ire towards the dev team).
Myself and others have given reasonable suggestions, some that you even agree with (EG: Mirror the lockout of other difficulties), to make mythic more accessible. Yet you dig your feet in the ground, push sand in your ears, and refuse to listen to people.
The changung the static number isn’t the avenue we should be asking for.
Yes, this. I want this. Exactly this. Like I said, y’all can call it “heroic+” if it makes you feel better.
Good thing we’re not asking for this. Leave the static number alone. Don’t change anything. Just add something. That’s what’s being requested.
Yep, really enjoyed this when it was overtuned. Was sad when it was nerfed.
Hard metric to gauge since this was a timewalking, which generally doesn’t have great numbers (anecdotal statement). Also it only flexed up to 15 which was a bummer. I’d love to see an experiment done the same way on mid-season current-tier raid and see the participation numbers.
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We don’t need more versions of raids. Mythic is fine where it is. Mythic isn’t meant to be accessible it’s meant to be achieved.
The only change I’d make to mythic raiding is to remove any exclusive rewards.
^ Exhibit A as to why not every opinion should be treated with equal weight.
Every thread.
Changing someone’s quote means you have nothing. “Im just gunna invent a quote that sounds kewl and stamp it wit every thread! Woo hoo!”
hes right tho, mythic raiding shouldnt be accessible to everyone. its a goal that guilds strive to pull themselves towards. if you and 19 other people have the time and effort then work towards that goal.
The fact that you can say that here, but then on another thread say:
That’s literally what you’re doing here - advocating against a game mode people might like because you wouldn’t like it, even though it would in no way impact you, which is, in your own words: “extremely selfish.” The irony here is just too good, you can’t make this stuff up.
comparing a whole game mode with spec tuning. wasnt a take i ever thought i would see. ty for taking the crown for most brain dead comparison in 2024 that i had the discomfort of seeing