there are people who do LFR for gear to wear - I got my first piece of tier gear from it and I will use it once I get a second piece.
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could just change the rolling system for lfr, or add bonus loot coins you use too roll a 2nd time.
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It’s sad because you get get way better gear from outside LFR. So I don’t understand why people are crying over LFR gear. It’s pretty much there for transmog.
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That’s literally why they’re crying about it. Transmog.
yeah, we want transmog, but we can’t.
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Yeah man I’m dumb, I misread your post as asking what people were complaining about.
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You’d think this stuff was going out of style or being removed next expac or something…
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That’s what need means to you.
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Sounds like you dont get it.
Sounds like you think one person is less deserving of gear.
I just don’t understand the design. They know people play for transmog. They keep doing stuff to transmog to open it up at our requests.
So why would they put a specific coloration in LFR and not let people need on it for transmog?
The only options now are what the OP is doing or waiting a ridiculous amount of time for it to become soloable, because the only window in which you can realistically obtain these pieces is when the raid tier itself is current. As soon as next patch drops almost nobody is going to be doing this raid in LFR anymore, and it’ll legitimately take 5 or more years before you can go back and get it without inconveniencing the people who are obsessed with ilvl on their characters that don’t actually progress past LFR anyway.
IMO if they’re going to favor people who think their ilvl is more important, they need to make this content soloable far sooner.
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Somewhat devils advocate, youre actually populating LFR which has its own as-intended positive effects
so…wait though- Ya’ll are going in with alts at low item level, and you know the mechanics, right? So then what, you actually help people learn the raid? And you hopefully get your alt geared in the process?
So noobs learn, down bosses, get loot and achievements, and ya’ll get mogs? And everyone wins? No way! I’m so proud of you guys <3
Except people don’t transition from LFR to normal in most cases. If they did, open world gear is better except for a few items, and tier can be converted now so LFR is a terrible way to get gear to actually progress anything.
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What does this have to do with needing gear for transmog? Just because it is less efficient method to gear doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid method for gearing. Maybe the guy has exhausted every other method for gear and is using LFR to fill in the gaps? Maybe they are there for the trinket?
Nah, thats what need means to Blizzard. That is what the design is for. That’s why they put conditions on needing on LFR tier pieces.
Less deserving of gear? No. Less deserving of the appearances of the gear? Yep.
That is what the debate is about. They don’t want the gear to use it for its stats or procs. They want the gear for its appearance. Let’s not get this twisted. If you think this is about being less deserving of gear, you aren’t paying attention.
And none of you advocating needing for transmogs being on the same level as needing for gear upgrades has answered why you can’t form your own 25m raid and queue up for LFR for a transmog run.
Good i hope it absolutely greifs every LFR you join from here on out
I have hard carried every wing of every LFR from every expansion on multiple healers and ill never q again due to this change.
Enjoy those determination stacks you group loot clowns deserve it.
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Not true. With personal loot you could choose to not loot the bosses in LFR and have your winnings sent straight to your mailbox. There is no drama from people screaming about how they deserve your loot.
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so your basically wasting more of your time just to spite blizzard and everyone else? wow.
because the game has to assign a specific id to a specific piece. hence the different color.
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sounds to me like you’re twisting really hard.
the reward is the piece of gear.
and yet that is the point people are actually making.
have people said they can’t do that? Is that a really a point of contention? Or are you trying to say they should instead do that, rather than queue for lfr? because that’s a dumb point.
They have said that it is “impossible” to do that. When countered with “I did it last week without an issue” - they disappeared.
The reward is a piece of gear, yes. But that gear has conditions on who it goes to, again designed by blizzard. Transmog is the lowest priority for need rolls - especially if the person rolling need already has the higher ilvl version of the item. Blizzard has been very clear what gear is primarily for. Transmog is not one of those things. Anyone arguing otherwise is arguing in bad faith. You have no point, you have no basis for an argument. Come up with something I haven’t answered in this very post multiple times.
Wait, so leveling an alt just to roll on transmog gear is a brilliant workaround, but creating your own LFR transmog group with people only doing LFR for transmog is a dumb point? I think the part of your brain that controls logic is busted.
It’s perfectly reasonable to blame other players for hoovering up all the LFR gear at the expense of those who have no gear. It’s a morally grey area right on the other side of the line which would be exploitation.
I do blame Blizzard for implementing this travesty. But I see no reason not to blame those who are taking advantage of it.
“Those people don’t need gear because my transmog is everybody’s end game. People without gear should be happy for me that their presence helped me get my transmog. It was a sacrifice they chose to make. And besides, they don’t deserve to reach end game, because if they deserved the gear they would need they would have it already.”