I look at it like a character similar to The Punisher, or Van Helsing, or even the Predator.
An example of a fictional character character on screen or literature that primarily uses bombs isn’t realistic because those characters can’t have an endless supply of bombs and they aren’t immune to AoE damage.
But bombs also aren’t the primary tool of Survival Hunters.
Regardless, Survival Hunter has been throwing bombs for 9+ years. It’s pretty established at this point.
The whole friendly fire argument is weak.
That is a gameplay design decision, has nothing to do with class fantasy.
Why is friendly fire from bombs immersion breaking but it’s ok for a mage to flamestrike on top of themselves or teammates and not light them on fire? Or a warrior to blade storm beside his allies and not chop them up. Or a hunter to volley on top of friend and not skewer them with arrows.
The lack of friendly fire is consistent across all classes and fantasies. Picking on wildfire bombs for that just feels bad faith.
Yeah. Its just people clawing at any reason to say that the thing they don’t like should be changed. I don’t see any Warlocks concerned about casting Cataclysm on their pets.
You don’t even see the people crying about wildfire bomb upset about standing next to the warrior using bladestorm or next to the demon hunter spewing fire everywhere. they can’t even be consistent with their own argument
Bombs would be effective against undead and elementals. Wouldn’t get very far trying to stab a skeleton or earth elemental with ye ol pokey stick
Bombs are prevalent in the Monster Hunter games, which are basically entirely about killing stuff and using their parts/meat: a core argument you keep making
Because it was never show as such
Otherwise i can say a hunter is someone who hunts with a guitar shreading some sick solos
Who are you to say a guitarist isnt a fantasy for hunters?
Because hunters are not know to be bombardiers, and survival is supposed to be a melee hunter, fighting with weapons alongside the pet
Do i have to repeat this every time because y’all have zero reading comprehension or are just too dishonest to yield an argument?
Thats not “my” headcanon, that is canon, wow hunters are not bombardiers and bomb throwers
Literally the worst example you can give, he doesnt hunt with bombs, otherwise he doesnt get paid LMAO
ah yes, all of those three are very well know for being bombardiers
MM already cover the spot for dude with guns who hunt by shooting and using traps btw
they are in midnight, which is the problem
If it wouldnt, there would be no warriors and rogues in this game
that does not answer my question, i want a character that the archetype can be based on.
But you might be into something, knowing blizzard loves to rip-off stuff from other games they might be trying to inject monster hunter into wow forgetting Survival core thematics
bombs have the been the primary “thing” since bfa. we use less bombs in midnight then we do in TWW. you are ill informed or lying. which is it?
It is, in game, since 2016. You just don’t like it.
They do this though. They just use extra tools. You don’t like it and you get mad when people point it out.
It is your headcanon because wow hunters have been throwing bombs since 2016.
Wow look at that, Asthelon first sentence already start lying, seems like its another post of his i will just put into the toilet and flush like what it is.
prove me wrong bud. we had more bombs then than we do now because wildfire cluster existed AND wilderness survival AND frenzied strikes was constantly lowering the CD of wildfire bomb.
AND we had wildfire infusion then, so even more of the thematic identity was our bombs + augmenting bombs.
you are a clown, you don’t know the game, you don’t like the game, and you complain about a spec that doesn’t match your headcanon, won’t match your headcanon, and has never matched your headcanon.
for 2018 (bfa release) to now, till presumably the end of midnight at least, our three main buttons have been raptor strike, kill command, and wildfire bomb. it’s going to stay like that. if you dont like it go play another spec
Warriors can use hammers/maces, but my point was you said bombs aren’t effective to hunt with, when it’s applicable to common WoW creatures. I don’t like this argument since it’s mostly semantics honestly
As a technicality/push up glasses moment you can completely recreate a survival hunter as it is now in the MMO Rift
I didnt said they werent effective to kill things
I said isn’t effective to hunt like a hunter does, there is no skill, trainning, there is no spoils either, is just not a thematic hunters are know to be doing
When you picture a “hunter”, you picture:
all of those can lay traps to ambush and wound their target
But you dont picture a dude just throwing a giant grenade and exploding his target, that is another class all together
Keep in mind im not saying they should remove all explosives of the hunter, just tone down, there is just too much focus on wildfire bomb and this new dumb moronic skill called boomstick(who doesnt fit the survival spec) when the spec should be more melee focused
Survival does use melee and fight alongside their pet tho.. it’s just not all they do. It seems like you want them to exclusively do those things, which has never been the spec design.
A class using bombs as part of it’s rotation doesn’t turn it into a bombardier as you keep claiming.
WoW hunters have in fact been bomb throwers for a decade if they spec into survival post Legion. Yes.
Just because you have never liked that part of the spec design doesn’t mean it hasn’t been there for a long time.
I agree hunters are not bombardiers, your classification of them as such because it’s part of the rotation is silly. Bombardiers pretty much exclusively bomb things. We’d need far more than 2 explody buttons to fit that definition.
They could lowkey add a skill to summon a demon and cast felfire bolts and people would still think it fits the survival thematic because “he still use melee and fight with the pet…”
Give me an example of a character who does that then
Keep in mind that survival poster child is Rexxar and go
I lose track of who’s arguing for which point. I can understand your argument, with us having one melee ability going into Midnight on paper.
We’re basically left spamming KC (pet) RS (melee) and WFB (bomb) so our core has a one of each. Using more casts of raptor strike makes it statistically more melee ability usage but I can see how it wouldn’t feel that way.
In terms of Boomstick my stance is I generally dislike channel abilities on melee specs, didn’t like FotE either. Survival needs more throwing axes
The player character, did you even read what they said?
Okay, so what? Does this mean that survival hunters can only be moknathal? the old spec art was a creek, does that mean the spec has to be running water? you’re such a one track mind thinker lol BM spec art is a devilsaur, but my hunter isn’t a devilsaur. wonder what that means?
dude you literally refuse to engage with anything that proves you wrong. azeroth is FULL of MASSIVE MONSTERS and inorganic creatures you fight. you don’t think, even in your headcanon world where the hunter is just a sustenance hunter, they wouldn’t keep additional arms on them to meet the need of any random situation they find themselves in?
Making a bomb with wildfire is not that wildly different to making an explosive trap or strapping some explosives to an arrow and shooting it.
Summoning demons and fel fire would be completely out of left field, and what’s more there’s already multiple specs in the game themed around those.
Every single player character that has selected survival post Legion.
It was right there in the line you quoted. And you claim I can’t read.
The funniest part is Rexxar originally was classified as a beast master, so this whole “reeee rexxar has no bombs that means survival must only be melee and pet” is ridiculous.
If you wanna fixate on Rexxar so much you should be petitioning Blizz to make BM melee instead of survival, instead of trying to have a spec you don’t even like changed to tailor to your personal interpretation of what the fantasy should be.
The whole fixation on matching spec design with NPCs is a silly endeavor to begin with. Anduin is a mess for paladins and priests if you wanna go that route.
As expected, another nonsense response
you either are to dense to understand im clearly talking about characters and not the PC, since this is a circular logic fallacy, or you just cannot name anything else and to not look bad on yourself you just say this and pretend you got a W
Why?
Dont hunters tame and summon pets?
then we can tame demons as “taming a pet is not that wildly different to summon a demon”
See? We can justify anything dumb if we want
Again, thats circular logic fallacy
the player character is not an example, cannot be used as an example
If a bombardier is a “wow hunter thematic” there should be lots of examples ingame to prove that
Right, was, now he is survival and survival was build to be like him at first
more personal attacks 
your bread and butter. you cannot compare lore figures to the player characters because the lore characters are not 1:1 spec representation. to think otherwise is absurd.
do you think priests should wear armor and use swords like anduin? should all ranged hunters be elves since the windrunner sisters are elves?
“give an example of a hunter in wow using bombs”
“the player character for the last 10+ years”
“no not like that”
what’s it like getting so bent out of shape about a video game?
the player is not a character you dimwit
A hunter character is Rexxar, Nesingwary, halduron, Shandris, Nathanos, Huln Highmountain
Am i talking to an actual child, how old are you
i like how you once again keep ignoring everything that immediately pokes a hole in your flimsy argument. should holy priests use swords and melee cause anduin does? you can play hots if you just want to play rexxar. or you can just not use WFB on SV you aren’t forced to press buttons
how long will you keep getting angry that the bomb spec uses bombs? at what point do you realize it’s just not for you and you should play bm?