Tinkers out in force it seems
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dont bother using logic here, people cannot grasp the difference between a hunter, the guy that goes into the wilds with a bow/spear/gun to hunt a pray, and a tinker gunner who just throw bombs willy nilly not caring about the aftermath
A hunter hunts, kills the target for meat, for leather, for trophies. Throwing a bomb would make everything useless, there is no game or skill in just throwing a bomb.
And yes hunters are connected to nature, is part of their fantasy in wow, be rangers or just “man of the wild” archetype, not bombardier
Day 495 where Asthelon doesnt know the difference between an explosive = trap and explosive = bomb
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"nooo you cant have a different opinion than me nooo if you do youre a tinkerer 
please dont bring up that hunters have always used technology "
day 495 where syegfryed splits hairs and says an explosive that’s mechanically triggered in an entirely metal apparatus is somehow “primalistic and natural”
this has literally never been the case, go play an early access survival game on steam if this is what you want.
hunters in wow are on azeroth, not on earth. they will need more potent tools than a stick on azeroth.
Using real world “logic” to try and limit what fits in a class design in a universe with magic, gods, eldritch horrors, shapeshifting, teleporting, spaceships, etc… is not very logical actually.
Yes in the real world blowing up your prey as a hunter would render everything useless. In Azeroth tho we are hunting T-Rexes that are as tall as a skyscraper… who knows what a grenade would do to the hide/meat/etc. of that. It doesn’t exist.
And within the WoW lore we aren’t even hunting “prey” in that sense really anyway. Yes hunter’s start their journey as that, but by now we are hunting gods.
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Im not using “real world” logic, im using logic with the spec and the setting
Yeah the world have magic, gods and eldritch horrors, that is not an argument to make us tame gold gods by example
Therefore, needing a massive bomb/grenade to kill it, so it would render the product of the hunt useless
What matters more is thematic and how you hunt, regardless of which.
Everything is your prey, monsters, humans, demons, the undead, etc
The hunter hunt then, hunting require certain methods and skills only a hunter can do, just throwing bombs is lame, is not even consider a proper hunting
Like poisoning an entire lake to get fish, are you actually fishing? i would say no.
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And Warriors don’t generally fight by stomping on the ground to release pulses of lightning or or by holding a giant weapon straight out and spinning in circles, its not what Warriors do. Just like Monks don’t actually summon magic tigers or throw beer at people.
But this is WoW. The thematics aren’t supposed to match your narrow view of what you think a class should be. Its a fantasy game with over the top themes and effects.
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Good thing the stomping on the ground bit is something minor, only one-two skills do that and only one is “mandatory”.
And the stomping on the ground to release pulses of energy is something thematic to warriors in a lot of settings, its not alien to wow: see mountain thane in wc3
Its not something outside of the monk thematic in many games, or even in wuxia or similar novels.
The thematics do match the class, most of the time, your examples dont refute anything, just show we have multiple thematics who are not outside the class niche
A bomber is not a hunter, he is an gunner/artelerist/tinker/engineer, anything but a hunter.
Why are you obsessing over the “product of the hunter” when that’s literally never been a thing? Besides, you can log on right now learn leatherworking (as any class, mind you) kill a beast with something like pyroblast, chaos bolt, bladestorm, deadly poison, etc — things that would “ruin the skin/meat” and guess what? you’ll still loot high quality meat and leather from the beast.
turns out azeroth actually doesn’t care how things die and the “product of the hunt” isn’t ruined. once again you’re getting mad at your own imagination
also who was that guy that was complaining that WFB is “lame” because engineering exists in the game? i wonder if they think the concept of hunter in general is also “lame” because cooking and leatherworking exist…
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Hunter covers a lot of themes in WoW. Its funny you use the word gunner like hunter isn’t a gunner. Hunter is literally the gun class and have a gunner spec. It’s an unfortunate reality that one class with 3 specs has to try and cover the fantasy of hunters from two factions and however many races and themes. They have to pick and choose or try to blend them somehow. It’s sort of like how Warrior has a lot of themes to cover and they don’t all work. None of the Warrior specs really cover a clean knight theme, since the Warrior themes are all raging screaming stomping lunatics. The class themes can’t cover everything.
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Why are you obessed in trying to respond everything i say when you simple cannot use your brain to think logically related to class and spec thematic
All your arguments are incessantly asinine and completely misses the point
Indeed, Bomber is not one of then, because bomber is not associate to hunters, ever
And a gun is quite different from a bomb
how you use a gun to hunt, or a trap, is completely different from using a bomb
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you ignored the evidence you don’t like and went right back to personal attacks lol
if you don’t want people to respond to things you say… 1) dont post in a public form 2) dont pretend your headcanon is the reality of the game 3) dont get mad at your own imagination
explosive trap definitely preservers the sanctity of the hunt and would for sure make sure the meat/skin/“product of the hunt” isn’t damaged 
. it’s a super special magic honorable explosive
And as has been said many times in this thread… how one hunts thematically is a subjective thing.
Improvised bombs and traps and fire fits just fine for me, and for lots of others. It doesn’t for you. That’s fine, maybe the spec just isn’t up your alley then.
Sure.
By “prey” in that context I meant we as hunters, in TWW and going forward, really aren’t hunting prey in order to get meat and hide and such from them. Nowadays our prey is demons and void horrors, what usable meat are hunters harvesting from Dimensius?
This concept of the hunter who only uses simple weapons to hunt prey for meat and hides is just faaar too narrow for WoW. That is the origins of the hunter spec for sure, but we left that simple life behind long ago, we hunt much larger dangerous prey now, our tools have adapted to meet the dangers.
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It is though. You just don’t like it.
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It’s really interesting to me that these people have an extremely narrow definition of “hunter” and anything that is different from their imagination even slightly sets them off. Do they know that bounty hunters exist in wow? do they know we may come across giant insects the size of trucks, dragons, or other monsters?
even if their entire focus was on “primal hunter” and they pretended they never left the starting zone, there’d still be poachers theyd have to fight/kill in their headcanon if they want to pretend to be the defender of nature archtype…
You didnt give any evidence, all you do is a endless ad nauseam of the same crap you sprouted ages ago and was already refuted, im not wasting time on your nonsense, im only answering new people in this discussion
Yes, but none of those is with BOMBS, the same way hunters dont hunt using fel magic, or fireballs or hunt by summoning an elemental of fire
Traps are fine yes, and to a degree, bombs would be fine.
The problem is too much focus on making bombs the MAIN thing of the survival spec
That is just dumb
Tell me one hunter in fiction that is a bomber and hunts with bombs.
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go log in right now
press wildfire bomb on a beast
you will still be able to loot meat and leather skins
this is evidence, you just don’t like it. anything you don’t like you ignore or pretend doesn’t apply. your entire argument for hundreds of posts is based on your own headcanon.
other fiction sources have no barring here lol. again, the hunter class in wow is not a sustenance farmer that only uses their skills for meats and leathers. AGAIN abilities do NOT impact the quantity or quality of meat you get. this is something you made up, in your own head, to get upset at
do you only fight beasts in wow? do you ignore dragons, humanoids, robots, golems, void monsters, cultists, etc? you dont think having extra tools for those would be a good idea?
you dont think a smart hunter, that lives in a world like azeroth, that could get ambushed at any time by a rock elemental 20 feet tall, might want to carry explosives around with them?
You’re still equating hunter to a wilderness game hunter out for meat and hides, which the hunter class is not.
Thats what im talking about, you make only dumb and childish arguments, not even worthy wasting time on you
→ “bomber definitely fits the hunter fantasy and thematic!”
Ok show me one
→ other fictions have no barring and doesnt matter here!!!1!!
Keep in mind that even in wow no hunter in lore is a bomber, the bombers are tinkers and engineers
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im bringing you what actually happens in the game and you get mad at it lol. i think it’s time you realize the hunter class isn’t for you
wonder why you ignored this? doesn’t fit your precious headcanon
my hunter uses bombs and is a hunter 
rexxar uses explosive trap
are player characters only allowed to do what lore figures do?
Why??
Because you say so? Because it doesn’t fit your internal fantasy for hunters?
Again why? Because it’s “too much focus” for you?
“Too much” is itself a subjective measurement. What is too much for you is just right, or not enough, for others.
Why do you think your personal head-canon for what hunters are supposed to be is universal?
Personally for me it even makes sense for the spec to move more into bombs and more powerful destructive tools. The enemies we fight, the prey of hunters, has gotten more powerful and grandiose as the game has gone forward. It fits just fine for our tools to have adapted.
Not sure what other fictional hunter’s have to do with WoW hunters, but since you asked
And if anything a bounty hunter is much more like modern WoW hunters anyway. Outside of some quests occasionally how often are we hunting animals for meat or hide? Almost never. We are hunting high value, dangerous, humanoid or demon or void prey that is intelligent and can fight back with weapons and magic.
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