I will be honest, Water Elemental when you get him at lv 50 as an fully dedicated frost mage is amazing, but the gear dependency in wotlk content becomes extremely high and he doesn’t scale with your gear. In a game where you are extremely gear dependent, this is just awful. I would prefer if you get more intellect doing intellectual stuff like reading books, enchanting items and so on instead of getting gear, but that is another discussion.
Is not that he would become good as Felguard if scaled with the gear. He would at best become as good as imp.
Also, please. Buff the spell power coefficient in frostbolt. It deals almost no damage in wotlk content.
The water ele absolutely scales with gear. It scales on the mage’s spell power.
As for frostbolt, it has more base coefficient on spell power than abilities of similar cast time like lightning bolt and incinerate while having a built in slow. It’s talented coefficient is the same as incinerate and lightning bolt as well.
Just bite the bullet. There always has to be a bottom of the meters class/spec. In Wrath, Frost mage is one of them. Just deal with it instead of requesting Blizzard to change things. I bet if they did change things, you wouldn’t then be posting ‘Well, now Arms warrior is trash, you need to do something about that Blizzard!’ No, you only care because frost mage effects you, well I’m sorry that you wanna play a trash spec that we all knew going into Wrath was a trash spec. Suck it up, play a different spec or class. It’s that simple. There will ALWAYS be a spec/class at the bottom of the meters, and it just so happen in Wrath, frost mage sucks in raids.
Frost is very viable. Here’s a comparison between the highest Arcane Mage Grobbulus parse and the highest Frost Mage. The Frost Mage at 48 seconds (the duration of the Arcane kill) was doing 12% less DPS than the Arcane Mage (10,200 DPS at 48 seconds, look at the Damage Done in the replay):
If the top Mages went Frost for a week, you’d see some crazy numbers coming out.
First off, no it doesn’t, it’s a separate proc, you can get frostbite without fingers of frost or fingers of frost without frostbite or both at the same time.
Secondly, you have spells like frost nova and freeze that results in more damage overall when the target isn’t immune to roots.
This literally only happens if the fight last less than a minute due to double icy veins, unglyphed pet and getting 3 deep freeze off.
Damage after the initial 45 seconds falls off like a brick.
The 3rd Deep Freeze happened at 51 seconds. At 48 seconds, the Frost Mage was doing 10,200 DPS. You make it sound like Frost is the only spec to fall off after 45 seconds.
I’m not trying to argue that Frost is super amazing or something. I’m just saying, there’s very few Frost Mages DPSing in Naxx and the numbers would be closer to Arcane if there were as many Frost Mages as there are Arcane Mages. Logs give us a ton of information but most people look at one or two metrics and base their entire opinion off of those.
This is not true. The base coefficient is the same for all spells of a given cast time. Frostbolt has a base cast time of 3.0 seconds, giving it a coefficient of 85.71% (3.0/3.5).
Frostbolt has talents that increase its damage done, which also increase the contribution by spell power, thus effectively increasing its coefficient; but that is not a base.
No you can’t; they proc on the same roll. Test it sometime. The only way to get FoF without Frostbite is for the target to be immune to Frostbite (which can be natural or due to DR or buffs).
frost mage is a pvp/leveling spec. its not made for running raids lol. you have 2 other specs that are perfectly viable for raiding. you dont see people going into raids as blood dps or prot dps. If you just wanna dps with a minion, make a warlock
I wanna be a frost mage. In single player games, I even use mods to play as one if I can’t. In Dark Souls 3, I installed Convergence, to play as a Cryomancer, also installed Returning 2.0 for Gothic 2 only to be able to join water mages(as the base game only allows fire).
In the unique other mmo which I reached lv cap, Age of Conan, I played mostly as necromancer which uses frost/unholy damage.
That said, if I can’t be effective in PvE as an Frost Mage, I will only play WoW as an Affliction Warlock. And BTW, I’m at lv 58 as one right now.
My warlock is already lv 58. And yes, I kill stuff much faster with him.
